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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

How come Yhwach prevent Orihime's power from turning Ichigo's bankai state to his past stage before it was broken?

At that point in time, it will be the future he is negating someone to change the past.
 
Hopefully the Anime can fix that.

Though considering they did Nothing for the writing for Nanao/Shunsui's family just having a direct counter to Lille. Best to not keep the hopes that high.
 
AppleLord said:
How come Yhwach prevent Orihime's power from turning Ichigo's bankai state to his past stage before it was broken?

At that point in time, it will be the future he is negating someone to change the past.
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because it was always broken from the start, at least thats what i got from it. not to mention orihime seems to have a limit/trouble when it comes to dealing with soul kings tuff like not being able to undo his death or negating the actions of YH
 
Because orihime's power allows her to jump to a alternate future thus she fixes things something like that. While during ichigo's bankai case it was broken in all future. So even if she created alternate timeline it was already broken in those futures as well. That's why she couldn’t fix it.

But tsukishima's ability's mechanics is different. He likely inserts brand new time/ timeline itself with new information, thus he could create brand new timeline, past, future separate from pre-existent ones which yhwach affected already. Which allowed her to fix bankai in that timeline.
Thay's what I understood.

While I think it's possible for yhwach to negate someone's future action of changing the past, but it raises question about tsukishima's case honestly.
May be someine else can g8be better insight on this and I don’t think kubo gonna change such major stuffs.
 
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Arc7Kuroi said:
That needs to be saved for a revision. I’ll actually be tackling it ina. Series of ongoing revisions atm. I’d revert the changes and send em my way
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Man I prefered the meteor impact calc. Best method I've seen so far. How is it island level if it's gonna destroy whole sereiti is beyond my understanding!
 
Adam1396 said:
Man I prefered the meteor impact calc. Best method I've seen so far. How is it island level if it's gonna destroy whole sereiti is beyond my understanding!
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The meteor impact calc is my preferred method as well. Doesn't rely on any pixel scaling so it's not privy to the pitfalls of inconsistent pixel scaling.
 
Adam1396 said:
Man I prefered the meteor impact calc. Best method I've seen so far. How is it island level if it's gonna destroy whole sereiti is beyond my understanding!
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What do you mean by Island level?
 
That seems likely. I don't know if I am rembering wrong or not but I swear I thought I read somewhere that her powers work by bring something to the stage prior before the even happened. That's like past manipulation.
 
Found it:

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AI Google:
Orihime Inoue's power, known as Senkaishin, allows her to reverse the effects of events, including wounds and even physical damage, by returning things to their previous state. Her ability works by negating the damage or injury, effectively making it as if the event that caused the damage never occurred.
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Orihime's power didn't work because Yhwach is hacking the game servers, but Uncle Tsukishima contacted the admins and told them to protect Orihime's account obviously.

Side note, going on a trip for the next month and I'm going to be using a VPN, hopefully I won't get banned because of my IP address.
 
ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn said:
To be fair, Ichigo's in a position where he can't fight many character fairly. First, his opponents have to deal with his Spiritual Pressure and be able to see and interact with him. If they can survive that, then they can fight, but a lot of people in Ichigo's tiers (especially his higher tiers like 4-A and 3-C) have a ton of hax while he is mostly just a flying brick (with the exception of the very high temperature of his attacks), so it's pretty hard.
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Would true zanpakuto ichigo vs DMC 3 dante be a stomp? They are both similar in AP but ichigo can become stronger with bankai and Ressurecion amps and dante has interesting abilities. I am not too familiar with the lore and his abilities that much, I just played the games and I find it interesting they are kind of similar with the same English VAs.
 
Specterxxxx said:
Would true zanpakuto ichigo vs DMC 3 dante be a stomp? They are both similar in AP but ichigo can become stronger with bankai and Ressurecion amps and dante has interesting abilities. I am not too familiar with the lore and his abilities that much, I just played the games and I find it interesting they are kind of similar with the same English VAs.
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Ichigo is around four times stronger in base, but he becomes over 400 times stronger than Dante with just his Bankai, let alone his other amps. Granted, I'm pretty sure all of Dante's hax and resistances are 4-D and heavily layered, so Ichigo might just get passively haxed to death.

I'm not a Devil May Cry supporter, so it's probably best to ask them.
 
ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn said:
Ichigo is around four times stronger in base, but he becomes over 400 times stronger than Dante with just his Bankai, let alone his other amps. Granted, I'm pretty sure all of Dante's hax and resistances are 4-D and heavily layered, so Ichigo might just get passively haxed to death.

I'm not a Devil May Cry supporter, so it's probably best to ask them.
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What of senjumaru vs Dante then? She can't grow stronger like ichigo and she is only three times stronger than Dante. And they both got a lot of hax and abilities.

Also I noted senjumaru's abilities hasn't been updated yet from her fight with uryu. Will this be done along with the renji and uryu upgrades?
 
Specterxxxx said:
What of senjumaru vs Dante then? She can't grow stronger like ichigo and she is only three times stronger than Dante. And they both got a lot of hax and abilities.

Also I noted senjumaru's abilities hasn't been updated yet from her fight with uryu. Will this be done along with the renji and uryu upgrades?
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What upgrades are you expecting?
She does have a lpt of hax though.
 
Specterxxxx said:
What of senjumaru vs Dante then? She can't grow stronger like ichigo and she is only three times stronger than Dante. And they both got a lot of hax and abilities.

Also I noted senjumaru's abilities hasn't been updated yet from her fight with uryu. Will this be done along with the renji and uryu upgrades?
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If Ichigo gets passived to death, than Senjumaru would, too. It's best to ask the Devil May Cry supporters how strong Dante's hax is and how it works.
 
ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn said:
If Ichigo gets passived to death, than Senjumaru would, too. It's best to ask the Devil May Cry supporters how strong Dante's hax is and how it works.
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Based on Looking at his profiles and my little knowledge from the game. His demon energy is toxic to humans but this shouldn't be any different from hollow energy that is also toxic to humans and quinces but not Soul Reapers so I believe that can be equalised. But that's just me but I will ask them myself for their input.
 
Since Soi Fon and Yoruichi have advanced to 6-B, shouldn't Kūkaku also be advanced?

Also, why is Soi Fon's SS Arc form Class M but her stronger forms are Class 5?
 
I think Jugram revisions will be saved for cour 4 ngl. Like given he’s gonna get an entire fight with Uryu, it’s just better than to form the entire basis of his scaling on implications, even if we can precog where it’s going to go.

I mentioned that all to say, y’all are gonna need to exercise that patience yall have been good at doing lately 👍
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
I think Jugram revisions will be saved for cour 4 ngl. Like given he’s gonna get an entire fight with Uryu, it’s just better than to form the entire basis of his scaling on implications, even if we can precog where it’s going to go.

I mentioned that all to say, y’all are gonna need to exercise that patience yall have been good at doing lately 👍
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I can understand this one. Bit why do we have to wait for askin. Urahara made it explicitly clear askin was stronger than him and needed bankai to strengthen himself.
 
Adam1396 said:
I can understand this one. Bit why do we have to wait for askin. Urahara made it explicitly clear askin was stronger than him and needed bankai to strengthen himself.
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That fight hasn’t happened yet dude. That’s explicitly cour 4, which is why we’re waiting for the anime for Askin 🗿

This has been explained to you. It’s the same reason we’re going to wait for Jugram
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
That fight hasn’t happened yet dude. That’s explicitly cour 4, which is why we’re waiting for the anime for Askin 🗿

This has been explained to you. It’s the same reason we’re going to wait for Jugram
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So gerard's simple appearance was enough. I understand
 
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