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This is very sus
That you plucked an arbitrary definition for Kenpachi out of the air and insist upon arguing it? I very much do understand your argument, I just disagree with it for reasons I’ve already stated.-I didn't ignore that, that's the very reason the argument is about pure swordfigting, that both her and Zaraki are weaker than others overall but still recognized as the strongest in melee.
You don't seem to understand my point at all.
That’s not how this works lmao. You are the one making the claim it weakens overtime so you need to prove it. As for a boost in power breaking it, that’s my argument smh. Iko’s growth in power from eating Hikone’s fragments made him too strong for Ichibe’s hax, and thus Ichibe, to seal him.-Can never be prime Ikko because he didn't recover his name, Zaraki merely killed him as the seal was being broken. Also what evidence do you have about time not weakening the seal or a sudden power boost not being able to break the seal once applied?
What did Yhwach break out of in 1000 years?Cuz it sure wasn’t Ichibe’s naming hax.-Because Ikko was sealed thousands of years ago, and Ywach seemingly broke out of the seal he was under in 1000.
I don’t know if you know this but Kubo isn’t the one in charge of Bleach, the publisher (Shueisha) is. He may write for them and be responsible as the primary author but if it is officially licensed and published material with Shueisha’s stamp of approval on it, it is equally canon. Like I said, the manga only takes precedence when the two contradict each other.This is wrong simply because the databook isn't entirely written by the author, the manga is, in the manga as a swordswoman she simply has better feats than Yamamoto
All souls get stronger from adversity and what proof do you have Kenpachi regained his full power? Kid Kenny immediately wounded and overwhelmed her the moment he attacked in the past yet you are claiming he is now equal to Retsu? No. He was constantly nerfing himself in the past to have more fun and prolong the battle so the only thing you can actually say for certain about post-Muken’s strength is that it surpassed Retsu’s and is as much as she could bring forth.About the Zenkais, the ones before the TYBW where just him drawing his old strenght but that reserve is dry after Unohana, who he barely beat only wih his full power restored, meaning he lost with something like 90% of his full power just minutes before.
You mean the frozen Gerard who wasn’t affected by the ice and is stronger than the one that smacked around Shikai Kenpachi? Peak argument right there.And he tripped frozen Gerard, so no point on bringing that up, instead try and prove characters get exponentially stronger after every defeat.
The anime … where he won by being physically stronger? The thing you claimed wasn’t the deciding factor for who has the title above? Your own arguments and definitions mean that Kenpachi doesn’t deserve the title even after beating her since it wasn’t him overcoming her skill but just being much stronger … so we can loop right back to Retsu isn’t deserving of the Kenpachi title because she isn’t the strongest or because she isn’t the most skilled.The anime is the one where we actually see the full fight, and is incredible that you say Zaraki wasn't trying when that goes directly against the point of the fight.
Zaraki is going all out using full power and determined to win, his mental blocks based on his fear of killing her are gone, she notices this and so she doesn't fix her wound like she did 1000 years ago.
Giselle be molesting everyones favorite characters, man's a menace.So, Giselle liked Toshiro so much she took the liberty to give him new fresh sternittern clothes before the fight?
Agree with that, The few people that read CFYOW carefully here, know how to scale byakuya, the femritters, grimmjow, shunsui, and so on, and it turns out pretty consistentThe story doesn't make sense or not make sense, it's up to the person making the interpretation. It sounds to me like you couldn't make a consistent interpretation of the events, i.e. a skill issue
So, Giselle liked Toshiro so much she took the liberty to give him new fresh sternittern clothes before the fight?
we also seem to forget that like... Ichigo doesn't know that many techniques. His only real ranged attack is the getsuga tensho. It's easier for him to fire a weak GT from a distance than to move there and stab herGiven the difference in power, Ichigo shouldn't even have used any kind of Getsuga. I think with literally one finger he could easily kill them all. Candice's first attack and that first getsuga canceling each other out is pretty weird.
He can make long-range attacks without getuga. Do you remember what he did to Ginjo? A normal ranged attack. He could do the same with the femritters but this time using his finger or he could swing his dick and **** them from a distance.we also seem to forget that like... Ichigo doesn't know that many techniques. His only real ranged attack is the getsuga tensho. It's easier for him to fire a weak GT from a distance than to move there and stab her
He tanked sclaveri from Candice on the animeShouldn't Ichigo be immune to Sklaverei or did it affect him in the anime? It's hard to tell in the manga.
I've read all the novels thoroughly and i know exactly where everyone scales for the most part.Agree with that, The few people that read CFYOW carefully here, know how to scale byakuya, the femritters, grimmjow, shunsui, and so on, and it turns out pretty consistent
so they know how to contextualise Meninas statement.
other people, just read blindly some phrases, try to scale quincy girls to zaraki and Ichigo because of that, and have no idea of what they are talking about.
When Candice charged up to her V2 holy form we see her absorb buildings around ichigo and he wasn't even fazed4 Sclavrei couldn't do shit to him..
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Maybe intentional? Seem like they lost the desire to steal from shinigami because of the hollowfication stuff no? Unless they don't have direct control over what they can absorb idr. Ik they used the medallion to steal bankais but being corrupted by hollow is still a valid fearWhen Candice charged up to her V2 holy form we see her absorb buildings around ichigo and he wasn't even fazed
That you plucked an arbitrary definition for Kenpachi out of the air and insist upon arguing it? I very much do understand your argument, I just disagree with it for reasons I’ve already stated.
That’s not how this works lmao. You are the one making the claim it weakens overtime so you need to prove it. As for a boost in power breaking it, that’s my argument smh. Iko’s growth in power from eating Hikone’s fragments made him too strong for Ichibe’s hax, and thus Ichibe, to seal him.
I don’t know if you know this but Kubo isn’t the one in charge of Bleach, the publisher (Shueisha) is. He may write for them and be responsible as the primary author but if it is officially licensed and published material with Shueisha’s stamp of approval on it, it is equally canon. Like I said, the manga only takes precedence when the two contradict each other.
All souls get stronger from adversity and what proof do you have Kenpachi regained his full power? Kid Kenny immediately wounded and overwhelmed her the moment he attacked in the past yet you are claiming he is now equal to Retsu? No. He was constantly nerfing himself in the past to have more fun and prolong the battle so the only thing you can actually say for certain about post-Muken’s strength is that it surpassed Retsu’s and is as much as she could bring forth.
You mean the frozen Gerard who wasn’t affected by the ice and is stronger than the one that smacked around Shikai Kenpachi? Peak argument right there.
The anime … where he won by being physically stronger? The thing you claimed wasn’t the deciding factor for who has the title above? Your own arguments and definitions mean that Kenpachi doesn’t deserve the title even after beating her since it wasn’t him overcoming her skill but just being much stronger … so we can loop right back to Retsu isn’t deserving of the Kenpachi title because she isn’t the strongest or because she isn’t the most skilled.
You are aware that this debate stems from Raven’s CRT to scale Retsu’s AP to/above Yama and Aizen, right? Something you agreed with. Your argument that “Kenpachi” refers to sword skill is just shifting goalposts and headcanon that Retsu was unsurpassed.
Nameless Ikomikidomoe is High 6-A, higher with Third Release, Ikomikidomoe regained his name after absorbing Soul King fragments and became High 4-CAny evidence nameless Ikko in he present is stronger than in the past, when he might have been defeated and then sealed?
The three people who can no diff Hikone and Ikomikidomoe all have one thing in common.Nameless Ikomikidomoe is High 6-A, higher with Third Release, Ikomikidomoe regained his name after absorbing Soul King fragments and became High 4-C
So
Reio Fragments empowered Iko>>>>>>>Third Release Current Nameless Iko>>>>Current Nameless Iko=Past Ikomikidomoe.
CFYOW Kenpachi is the strongest Shinigami and that includes Bankai Yamamoto and Ichibei. The 6 months gap of Zaraki's power between CFYOW and TYBW is huge. Kenpachi is almost like Ichigo. He is growth rate is abnormal but not as abnormal as Ichigo. Even if Ichibei was there at that very moment he would lose. People use the statements that Ichibei duty is to protect the Soul King. Tokinada goal for Hikone was to replace the Soul King who Yhwach was in that story.
Ichiruki are probably the most toxic thing in HST overallHeard staff is leaving the Bleach anime project over dumb comments at twitter.
is that true?
Ah yes, have the 17 year old end up with the 100+ year old ghost, surely there's no ethical problems thereIchiruki are probably the most toxic thing in HST overall
No problem with the ship tho that is if the manga hasn't ended. Now that has ended some fans can't accept the Orihime and Ichigo.Ah yes, have the 17 year old end up with the 100+ year old ghost, surely there's no ethical problems there
Yeah, the adaptation has been a banger every releaseLike just enjoy the anime it’s a good adaptation so what if they take an extra week break here and there
Nameless Ikomikidomoe is High 6-A, higher with Third Release, Ikomikidomoe regained his name after absorbing Soul King fragments and became High 4-C
So
Reio Fragments empowered Iko>>>>>>>Third Release Current Nameless Iko>>>>Current Nameless Iko=Past Ikomikidomoe.
CFYOW Kenpachi is the strongest Shinigami and that includes Bankai Yamamoto and Ichibei. The 6 months gap of Zaraki's power between CFYOW and TYBW is huge. Kenpachi is almost like Ichigo. He is growth rate is abnormal but not as abnormal as Ichigo. Even if Ichibei was there at that very moment he would lose. People use the statements that Ichibei duty is to protect the Soul King. Tokinada goal for Hikone was to replace the Soul King who Yhwach was in that story.
God I hate bleach fans, honestly it’s prolly HST fans in general, they all suck
Review bombing is cringe, and so is being a hater just because animation isn't ready exactly when you want it done. The fact that some people think you can get animation, compositing, etc. done as good as it's done in the TYBWA quickly and cheaply is beyond me.Like just enjoy the anime it’s a good adaptation so what if they take an extra week break here and there
Have you read CFYOW?Also again there's no evidence or reason for Zaraki to become exponentially stronger between TWBW and CFYOW, or to think Ichibei would lose when the reason the 0 squad didn't move is because they didn't care if Hikone became king
This is lie. Third Release iko is stated to have power= to if not surpassing barrgan. Third Release iko loss to espada combining their strongest attacks. After being defeated he stated if he had his true name or past power he would have beaten them with easeNameless Ikomikidomoe is High 6-A, higher with Third Release, Ikomikidomoe regained his name after absorbing Soul King fragments and became High 4-C
So
Reio Fragments empowered Iko>>>>>>>Third Release Current Nameless Iko>>>>Current Nameless Iko=Past Ikomikidomoe.
You clearly haven't read cfyow. Zaraki is overrated as hell. Base hikone at the time had power= to if not greater than barrgan. This is because hikone and Ikomikidomoe power levels mirror one another. So base supressed kenpachi is about barrgan to starrk level at most in cfyow. Kenpachi's without his eye path is probably a 10× amp since it's comparable to hikones resurrection which is a 10× amp.CFYOW Kenpachi is the strongest Shinigami and that includes Bankai Yamamoto and Ichibei. The 6 months gap of Zaraki's power between CFYOW and TYBW is huge. Kenpachi is almost like Ichigo. He is growth rate is abnormal but not as abnormal as Ichigo. Even if Ichibei was there at that very moment he would lose. People use the statements that Ichibei duty is to protect the Soul King. Tokinada goal for Hikone was to replace the Soul King who Yhwach was in that story.
Why would you assume nameless Ikko is the same as past Ikko when the thing grows in power trough the novel as does Hikone?
Yup ichibei literally said he didn't care if hikone was soul king and yeah theirs no evidence whatsoever that zaraki is far stronger than he was in the war arcAlso again there's no evidence or reason for Zaraki to become exponentially stronger between TWBW and CFYOW, or to think Ichibei would lose when the reason the 0 squad didn't move is because they didn't care if Hikone became king.