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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

BreezeHM said:
Hello.

A new user made this edit on Gerard Valkyrie's page. It appears to not be vandalism, however I cannot confirm the authenticity of the information, I'd like to ask if the information he provided is valid.

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According to Gerard, thanks to his The Miracle, Hoffnung is the "hopes of people bundled together". Damaging "hope" causes "despair" and so, if Hoffnung is damaged in any way, the combatant who damaged it will suffer injuries in return. For example, a small nick in the blade will result in a disproportionately large cut in the opponent's body. However, Tōshirō Hitsugaya manages to disable this effect by freezing Hoffnung completely solid, ceasing its functions.
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This is just taken straight from the Bleach Fandom Wiki lol.

It is indeed implied that Gerard's Miracle is part of why Hoffnung works. It is not directly confirmed, but it is extremely likely. I would say it is fairly accurate/valid

For the Toshiro thing, that is completely accurate/valid.

The rest is just a rewording of what was already on the page.

Hopefully, that answers your question.
 
DragoZeroNova said:
This is just taken straight from the Bleach Fandom Wiki lol.

It is indeed implied that Gerard's Miracle is part of why Hoffnung works. It is not directly confirmed, but it is extremely likely. I would say it is fairly accurate/valid

For the Toshiro thing, that is completely accurate/valid.

The rest is just a rewording of what was already on the page.

Hopefully, that answers your question.
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Thank you. Just needed to know before I approve or undo his edit.
 
I found out that every of the scans on Aizen's intelligence all leads to Mangabolt
vsbattles.fandom.com

Sosuke Aizen

Sosuke Aizen (藍染あいぜん 惣そう右介すけ, Aizen Sōsuke?) is the former captain of the 5th Division in the Gotei 13. He later leaves Soul Society with his followers, Gin Ichimaru and Kaname Tosen. His lieutenant was Momo Hinamori. He formerly served as the lieutenant of the 5th Division under Shinji Hirako...
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The miracle is three powers. It gives Probability manipulation,an indestructible body power by fear of the masses and Despair manipulation.
 
Cour 4

"The Royal Guard, the Zero Division, confronts Yhwach as he attempts to enter the Royal Palace.
However, the King of the Quincy and his Schutzstaffel break through the Zero Division’s overwhelming Bankai and finally step into the Royal Palace.
Entrusted by Ichibē Hyōsube with the protection of the Soul King, Ichigo Kurosaki and his allies take on that duty.
But due to Yhwach’s scheme, Ichigo ends up cutting down the Soul King with his own blade.
The death of the Soul King—this signified the collapse of the Three Realms.
Distortions begin to appear across each world, and signs of destruction start to spread throughout the entire world.
The Gotei 13 join forces with the remaining Quincy and head toward the Royal Palace.
However, the Royal Palace has fallen into the hands of the “Wandenreich” and has transformed into the Wahrwelt Castle.
As if mocking the Soul Reapers, the castle towers high in the sky, where the Schutzstaffel lie in wait.
Across various locations within Wahrwelt Castle, fierce battles unfold between the Gotei 13 and the Schutzstaffel.
Ichigo learns the true intentions of Uryū, and as friends who trust one another, they renew their resolve to protect the world.
Yhwach has become a being that surpasses even “The Almighty.”
The fierce battle, with the fate of the Three Realms at stake, heads toward its conclusion.
Beyond the calamity of chaos—what awaits: despair or hope…?"





It's says yhwach surpassed the almighty. Acasual yhwach confirmed lol. Even the official English says the samething. So being soul king makes you acausal it seems
 
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ichimojii said:
Cour 4

"The Royal Guard, the Zero Division, confronts Yhwach as he attempts to enter the Royal Palace.
However, the King of the Quincy and his Schutzstaffel break through the Zero Division’s overwhelming Bankai and finally step into the Royal Palace.
Entrusted by Ichibē Hyōsube with the protection of the Soul King, Ichigo Kurosaki and his allies take on that duty.
But due to Yhwach’s scheme, Ichigo ends up cutting down the Soul King with his own blade.
The death of the Soul King—this signified the collapse of the Three Realms.
Distortions begin to appear across each world, and signs of destruction start to spread throughout the entire world.
The Gotei 13 join forces with the remaining Quincy and head toward the Royal Palace.
However, the Royal Palace has fallen into the hands of the “Wandenreich” and has transformed into the Wahrwelt Castle.
As if mocking the Soul Reapers, the castle towers high in the sky, where the Schutzstaffel lie in wait.
Across various locations within Wahrwelt Castle, fierce battles unfold between the Gotei 13 and the Schutzstaffel.
Ichigo learns the true intentions of Uryū, and as friends who trust one another, they renew their resolve to protect the world.
Yhwach has become a being that surpasses even “The Almighty.”
The fierce battle, with the fate of the Three Realms at stake, heads toward its conclusion.
Beyond the calamity of chaos—what awaits: despair or hope…?"





It's says yhwach surpassed the almighty. Acasual yhwach confirmed lol. Even the official English says the samething. So being soul king makes you acausal it seems
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Yes, being Reio-like makes you acausal
 
ichimojii said:
Cour 4

"The Royal Guard, the Zero Division, confronts Yhwach as he attempts to enter the Royal Palace.
However, the King of the Quincy and his Schutzstaffel break through the Zero Division’s overwhelming Bankai and finally step into the Royal Palace.
Entrusted by Ichibē Hyōsube with the protection of the Soul King, Ichigo Kurosaki and his allies take on that duty.
But due to Yhwach’s scheme, Ichigo ends up cutting down the Soul King with his own blade.
The death of the Soul King—this signified the collapse of the Three Realms.
Distortions begin to appear across each world, and signs of destruction start to spread throughout the entire world.
The Gotei 13 join forces with the remaining Quincy and head toward the Royal Palace.
However, the Royal Palace has fallen into the hands of the “Wandenreich” and has transformed into the Wahrwelt Castle.
As if mocking the Soul Reapers, the castle towers high in the sky, where the Schutzstaffel lie in wait.
Across various locations within Wahrwelt Castle, fierce battles unfold between the Gotei 13 and the Schutzstaffel.
Ichigo learns the true intentions of Uryū, and as friends who trust one another, they renew their resolve to protect the world.
Yhwach has become a being that surpasses even “The Almighty.”
The fierce battle, with the fate of the Three Realms at stake, heads toward its conclusion.
Beyond the calamity of chaos—what awaits: despair or hope…?"
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Source?
 
All the stuff that was brought already was address. For some reason vsb keeps allowing people make threads with the same arguments
 
Legit question,has any recent ish bleach match ever not use equalized speed?
Outside of the rating on the wiki we could have below average speed and be fine except against the characters who stack a billion speed amps but i don't think we have ever been faster than that lot.
 
Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye said:
lol verse has no speed feats above MHS now. I can’t wait to see the new speed scaling.
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TS ichigo should still have a MHS+ annd there’s a couple others that are MHS+ and what happened to his realistic+ feat? Is there a thread for why that was completely disregarded now?

Not to mention Karakura town is now 3x bigger than Las Noches😂😂😂. God these trollers who just write a bunch stuff and staff agrees to it brings back serious 2016 vibes lol. Must’ve found old threads and got inspired lol
 
SilentBob34 said:
TS ichigo should still have a MHS+ and what happened to his realistic+ feat? Is there a thread for why that was completely disregarded now?

Not to mention Karakura town is now 3x bigger than Las Noches😂😂😂. God these trollers who just write a bunch stuff and staff agrees to it brings back serious 2016 vibes lol. Must’ve found old threads and got inspired lol
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Can‘t wait for someone to argue that the realms are just Planets.
 
ItsMeat said:
That's why we NEED a cosmology blog

I'm working on one but the last update I did was like a month ago or so, anyway, I will resume to it soon
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I have a sh*t ton of work to do currently but i‘d still love to help. Is there any way specifically which would make things easier for you which i could do (if i find the time😭)?
 
PizzaDante67 said:
I have a sh*t ton of work to do currently but i‘d still love to help. Is there any way specifically which would make things easier for you which i could do (if i find the time😭)?
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Well, Ig I do have like all the scans saved except for Cycle of Rebirth, if you could help with that part, it would be perfect

Thanks for offering to help
 
I CBA to figure out which speed calc is valid or not, can someone just post which ones are not axed/in the process of being axed? I don't care about the value, just give me a list of valid speed calcs that aren't going to disappear when I turn around.
 
the speed feat removal doesnt rly matter as Speed for the verse will be revised and even upgraded to a degree.
 
Apotheosis69 said:
the speed feat removal doesnt rly matter as Speed for the verse will be revised and even upgraded to a degree.
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With the exception of calculations that depended on the distance from the Palace to the Soul Society, which other feats can be used to put the verse in FTL or higher? All I can think about is the Lille's light. Perhaps the Hikone vs Zaraki calc + Multipliers?
 
GTsek said:
With the exception of calculations that depended on the distance from the Palace to the Soul Society, which other feats can be used to put the verse in FTL or higher? All I can think about is the Lille's light. Perhaps the Hikone vs Zaraki calc + Multipliers?
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It's multipliers stacked over lieutenants dodging light, trust✨️✨️(it probably isn't)
 
GTsek said:
With the exception of calculations that depended on the distance from the Palace to the Soul Society, which other feats can be used to put the verse in FTL or higher? All I can think about is the Lille's light. Perhaps the Hikone vs Zaraki calc + Multipliers?
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Ohhh, the Hikone calc is another calc @Mommyleona just removed with no context. This is an example of someone making a downgrade and removing anything feasible because staff doesn’t actually look into it. @Mommyleona, yeah gonna have to report you to the RVP thread for that blatant removal of calc’s
 
One of them is already cooked tbh. He straight up admitted he removed it without any context when I asked for a crt thread about it, and the same person also removed a calc that has nothing to do with thread he created. If that’s not blatant downplaying I don’t know what is tbh
 
SilentBob34 said:
One of them is already cooked tbh. He straight up admitted he removed it without any context when I asked for a crt thread about it, and the same person also removed a calc that has nothing to do with thread he created. If that’s not blatant downplaying I don’t know what is tbh
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It‘s not downplaying trust. They‘re just cleaning up and removing wrong calculations and all🥀

Next CRT will be the removal of Tier 3 Bleach and Return of Tier 5 God Tiers.
 
PizzaDante67 said:
It‘s not downplaying trust. They‘re just cleaning up and removing wrong calculations and all🥀

Next CRT will be the removal of Tier 3 Bleach and Return of Tier 5 God Tiers.
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I know you’re joking but he still needs to be held responsible. @Mommyleona cant just remove a novel feat because the manga feat got accepted. I’m just voicing this in hopes staff members will see they can’t remove completely uninvolved calc’s is ok.

Even just assuming Ichigo walked down the stairs provided for him for the distance between the SK palace and SS for a week. The distance would be 370 KM. The distance would be 7X greater than the 50 KM @Mommyleona provided evidence for. They’re just a blatant downplayer that staff agree with
 
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SilentBob34 said:
I know you’re joking but he still needs to be held responsible. @Mommyleona cant just remove a novel feat because the manga feat got accepted. I’m just voicing this in hopes staff members will see they can’t remove completely uninvolved calc’s is ok.

Even just assuming Ichigo walked down the stairs provided for him for the distance between the SK palace and SS for a week. The distance would be 370 KM. The distance would be 7X greater than the 50 KM @Mommyleona provided evidence for. They’re just a blatant downplayer that staff agree with
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Yeah that is for sure. Removing Calc‘s that are unrelated to the CRT? Why not remove the entire verse from the Wiki if we‘re at it?
I don’t want to make any accusations but it honestly feels like some people abuse the situation and remove things in hopes that nobody realizes or (which i hope is the case) it was just a mistake.

But then again, how can one mistakenly remove a calc that has nothing to do with the Anime/manga feat?
 
SilentBob34 said:
That, doesn’t help🤦‍♂️. You can’t just say you removed it lol. Provide the crt for it.
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Yes, I can, it's not my obligation to show anything to you
SilentBob34 said:
Ohhh, the Hikone calc is another calc @Mommyleona just removed with no context. This is an example of someone making a downgrade and removing anything feasible because staff doesn’t actually look into it. @Mommyleona, yeah gonna have to report you to the RVP thread for that blatant removal of calc’s
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Lol
SilentBob34 said:
One of them is already cooked tbh. He straight up admitted he removed it without any context when I asked for a crt thread about it, and the same person also removed a calc that has nothing to do with thread he created. If that’s not blatant downplaying I don’t know what is tbh
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I didnt admit to anything, I just answered your question about what happened to it
SilentBob34 said:
I know you’re joking but he still needs to be held responsible. @Mommyleona cant just remove a novel feat because the manga feat got accepted. I’m just voicing this in hopes staff members will see they can’t remove completely uninvolved calc’s is ok.

Even just assuming Ichigo walked down the stairs provided for him for the distance between the SK palace and SS for a week. The distance would be 370 KM. The distance would be 7X greater than the 50 KM @Mommyleona provided evidence for. They’re just a blatant downplayer that staff agree with
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Ranting for 4 messages straight 🥀
 
I'll prolly reread bleach when the anime drops, and check the verse in it's entirety

Hilarious that these guys aren't okay with high calcs, but have completely no problem with horrendously downplayed calcs, talk about double standards
Imagine even attempting to downgrade it to 50km that's based on bullshit 😭

But hey, you just want "accuracy" right
 
Hellscream said:
I'll prolly reread bleach when the anime drops, and check the verse in it's entirety

Hilarious that these guys aren't okay with high calcs, but have completely no problem with horrendously downplayed calcs, talk about double standards
Imagine even attempting to downgrade it to 50km that's based on bullshit 😭

But hey, you just want "accuracy" right
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Notice how no one, even us ”downplayers”, has a problem with Senna, Senjumaru or Gremmy btw
 
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