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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

AppleLord said:
If Aizen had evolved after Mugetsu and defeated Ichibei...

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Damn. Aizen lookin' hella breedable ngl. I mean look at those hips!
 
You can interpret Dangai > TS Ichigo. You’d have sumn like this: WSK = 4th Fusion Aizen < 5th Fusion Aizen < Ultrafragor (12x) < Dangai Ichigo, and WSK < TS Ichigo. Here you’d have Dangai unquantifiably above 12x the WSK, while TS Ichigo is just unquantifiably above the WSK. You’d have to goon around a little bit with Zangetsu’s statement of about Ichigo’s powers prior to TS being a fragment, aka the TS > everything before argument. But I don’t think it’s crazy to have Dangai Ichigo above TS Ichigo. TYBW Aizen tho is just blatantly stronger than 5th Fusion Aizen, via scaling to SK Yhwach.
 
Deceived3596 said:
At this point we should just institute a rule against this. We have debated that topic so many times and every single time it ends up with the same result, Yhwach can use the Schrifts he has absorbed. Nothing new has been argued for the past years. It's the same arguments regurgitated over and over again.
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Was thinking about that as well
 
Hellscream said:
Because the OP asked for it lmao, and you seemingly instantly agreed as well
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Because I have my own opinion on the Yhwach situation which I stated, but I agreed with closing the thread.

And if I the OP didn't present a good enough argument in the thread, I would have disagreed with it despite my own opinion on the matter.

Just because I think the profile would be better a certain way doesn't mean I'm going to try and force the topic through.
 
Man, there's nothing new literally everything presented or mentioned in the thread has been discussed multiple times before.
That's literally the whole reason why rules exist.

I know you were always in disagreement in every thread that included schrift abilities

Also don't see what's there to agree about when OP requested for the thread to be closed
 
I mean what will it really significantly change? We have never had a match were Yhwach was granted use of all his Schrifts because typically The Almighty stomps most of his matchups or he gets stomped regardless of if he gets all Schrifts or not.
 
A lot of the original post is simply just based on incorrect statements about how Yhwach's absorption works. I'll respond to the post in detail because I am bored.
First, I do see that it is generally accepted that YH has access to the other schrifts, but the reasoning I find a bit flawed. It says that because he absorbed them he may have them, but if it is simply a "may" then why are these items sometimes brought up in battles?
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Because we accept the usage of possible abilities In VS matches if they are specified by any given OP. This is simply a site wide standard, and has nothing to do with Yhwach specifically.
Second, I dont believe he has the schrifts of the others and that it may be possible that he simply absorbed their raw reishi, there was never an instance in which he used any of these abilities, had he done so then there would be backing for the possibility of him having the others schrifts.
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This is incorrect. The manga states Yhwach absorbs anything the victim may have acquired in their lifetime, including their skills directly. The scan for this is on Yhwach's page where the soul distribution power is described.
Another thing I'd like to bring up and of course this is simply my interpretation, yes, while yh did give the letters to the Quincy there is nothing stating that those powers already were there. In fact, As Nodt even explained how he came into the power, like a zanpakuto which starts as a base asauchi and through bonding with its user it becomes named and gains abilities etc, could the same not be said for schrifts?
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Yhwach absorbs these skills too. The manga specifically mentions that Yhwach acquires skills you obtained in your lifetime, including your memories and such. That means that Yhwach absorbs all abilities you had, even if they weren't directly given to them by him. This is the case for Pernida and Gerard, them coming into contact with his soul means that upon their deaths, all of their skills become Yhwach's, even though he didn't directly bestow upon them their powers.
Lastly, if I am not mistaken, in the novels and whatnot and again, I could be completely wrong, weren't the surviving vander using their abilities? If so, then how would yhwach have them? Wouldnt they have faded right along with him?
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  • Yhwach absorbs the powers of souls who have died. Obviously he doesn't have the abilities of Quincy who lived. That's why he doesn't have the powers of Quincy who survived after the war listed on his profile.
  • It took the bambi's months after Yhwach died to get their powers back anyway.
 
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Arcker123 said:
A lot of the original post is simply just based on incorrect statements about how Yhwach's absorption works. I'll respond to the post in detail because I am bored.

Because we accept the usage of possible abilities In VS matches if they are specified by any given OP. This is simply a site wide standard, and has nothing to do with Yhwach specifically.

This is incorrect. The manga states Yhwach absorbs anything the victim may have acquired in their lifetime, including their skill directly.. The scan for this ids on Yhwach's page where the soul distribution power is described.

Yhwach absorbs these skills too. The manga specifically mentions that Yhwach acquires skills you obtained in your lifetime, including your memories and such. That means that Yhwach absorbs all abilities you had, even if they weren't directly given to them by him. This is the case for Pernida and Gerard, them coming into contact with his soul means that upon their deaths, all of their skills become Yhwach's, even though he didn't directly bestow upon them their powers.

  • Yhwach absobs the powers of souls who have died. Obviously he doesn't have the abilities of Quincy who lived. That's why he doesn't have the powers of Quincy who survived after the war listed on his profile.
  • It took the bambi's months after Yhwach died to get their powers back anyway.
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So basically he's a worse Wilhelm in terms of memories and skills but a better Buu in terms of absorbing powers
 
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