BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I wanted to know more about Bleach's infinite speed, I thought we would never have something like that even in my dreams.

 

[Excellence616]

I wanted to know more about Bleach's infinite speed, I thought we would never have something like that even in my dreams.

We only have two characters with that rating and no one else scale to it.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

We only have two characters with that rating and no one else scale to it.

I understand, could you send me the link to see about the infinite speed crt?

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

I wanted to know more about Bleach's infinite speed, I thought we would never have something like that even in my dreams.

All there is to it is explained in the profiles, that simple. There’s nothing more to it.

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

Frankly, there is a possibility that Bleach will become infinite speed in the following courses.

We only have two characters with that rating and no one else scale to it.

Who else has scaled this pace other than Lille Barro?

 

[Naeblis495]

Yhwach , in his ritter schrift key i'd guess.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Frankly, there is a possibility that Bleach will become infinite speed in the following courses.

Who else has scaled this pace other than Lille Barro?

YH, with i think was either the X-Axis or his A since it can bring future events to the present instantly.

 

[CloverDragon03]

It's a limited form of Infinite attack speed. It can't actually travel an infinite distance, but it travels a known, finite distance instantaneously (to the point where the concept of "dodging" is ineffective)

More details are on the profile

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Touch grass

 

[AppleLord]

Is Senjumaru’s feat of shaking the 3 universes more legit now that we know she has infinite reiatsu from her Shikai ability to manipulate an infinite amount of reishi threats?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Is Senjumaru’s feat of shaking the 3 universes more legit now that we know she has infinite reiatsu from her Shikai ability to manipulate an infinite amount of reishi threats?

I think if that is true you can make a better argument for the higher interpretations of her realm shaking. But we already accept she can shake the universes.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

Is Senjumaru’s feat of shaking the 3 universes more legit now that we know she has infinite reiatsu from her Shikai ability to manipulate an infinite amount of reishi threats?

Ngl “now we know” because of a Twitter statement second-hand isn’t the best.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Is Senjumaru’s feat of shaking the 3 universes more legit now that we know she has infinite reiatsu from her Shikai ability to manipulate an infinite amount of reishi threats?

From what I remember, the more reiatsu you have, the more power and speed, right? So someone with infinite reiatsu should get infinite speed, like in Saint Seiya infinite cosmo = speed infinite.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

From what I remember, the more reiatsu you have, the more power and speed, right? So someone with infinite reiatsu should get infinite speed, like in Saint Seiya infinite cosmo = speed infinite.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

From what I remember, the more reiatsu you have, the more power and speed, right? So someone with infinite reiatsu should get infinite speed, like in Saint Seiya infinite cosmo = speed infinite.

Goku

 

[LordTracer]

From what I remember, the more reiatsu you have, the more power and speed, right? So someone with infinite reiatsu should get infinite speed, like in Saint Seiya infinite cosmo = speed infinite.

That’s a real gorilla emoji moment right there

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I mean you can make that argument and it’s truly not a bad argument when you argue from a UES perspective; however, it’s probably not the most consistent or even very consistent at all for Bleach.

 

[KingogKings777]

That’s a real gorilla emoji moment right there

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Goku

No

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

That’s a real gorilla emoji moment right there

I felt this way when it happened

 

[TheLav69]

From what I remember, the more reiatsu you have, the more power and speed, right? So someone with infinite reiatsu should get infinite speed, like in Saint Seiya infinite cosmo = speed infinite.

I'm kinda iffy on whether this interpretation is valid, but I'd like to point out that if it turns out that the information in the twitter statement was true, speed scaling for the god tiers might be heading in the direction of infinite speed anyway, given that one of the statements involved Aizen filling an infinite space (muken) with his reiatsu over the course of a finite time frame.

That being said, that also makes me wonder if we can necessarily scale the speed of one's reiatsu to their actual movement and reaction speed, which was something I wondered while looking at Senjumaru's speed calc for example.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I'm kinda iffy on whether this interpretation is valid, but I'd like to point out that if it turns out that the information in the twitter statement was true, speed scaling for the god tiers might be heading in the direction of infinite speed anyway, given that one of the statements involved Aizen filling an infinite space (muken) with his reiatsu over the course of a finite time frame.

That being said, that also makes me wonder if we can necessarily scale the speed of one's reiatsu to their actual movement and reaction speed, which was something I wondered while looking at Senjumaru's speed calc for example.

I've always looked at characters' energy like that, they scale through a certain extension of themselves.

 

[TheLav69]

I've always looked at characters' energy like that, they scale through a certain extension of themselves.

Maybe this could work, upon thinking about it further. Like, obviously someone’s reiatsu isn’t nearly as potent as their physical strikes, otherwise everyone would be soul crushing each other constantly and we’d never get to see characters actually have a battle.

Obviously this being the case for power doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the same for speed, but considering that the potency of someone’s reiatsu is consistently tiny in comparison to what they can actually do physically, I wouldn’t be opposed to it.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

No

Goku

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

Rizz:

like in Saint Seiya infinite cosmo = speed infinite.

Harrassment:

Goku is tier 2, power is correlated to speed in DB, so he should have infinite speed

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Rizz:


Harrassment:

You're pretty funny, right?

 

[Ped2018]

Get this fraud, LuffyRuffy

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Get this fraud, LuffyRuffy

You?

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Rizz:


Harrassment:

so truer

 

[Westcoast5005]

Rizz:


Harrassment:

Goku looks more attractive

 

[AppleLord]

I don't remember reading a statment that the more reitasu you had the faster the character was?

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

I don't remember reading a statment that the more reitasu you had the faster the character was?

It's repeatedly implied throughout the series, but BLEACH is BLEACH, not DB. There is way more nuance than that. Within the same person, yes, increasing their SP will increase stats, but SP is only ~ your general stats (other than AP), not exactly it. This is why there's speed mains.

 

[Blackdragonq1]

Is Zaraki’s soul manipulation layered

 

[KingNanaya]

Is Zaraki’s soul manipulation layered

yes

 

[Blackdragonq1]

yes

Can you tell me where you got the layer from ?

 

[Excellence616]

Is Zaraki’s soul manipulation layered

No, For now at least. We don't have an accepted layer for Bleach yet.

 

[KingNanaya]

No, For now at least. We don't have an accepted layer for Bleach yet.

really? I thought that was already accepted

 

[Blackdragonq1]

No, For now at least. We don't have an accepted layer for Bleach yet.

So will a page be opened about this soon?

 

[Excellence616]

No, For now at least. We don't have an accepted layer for Bleach yet.

I know that Aizen's soul manipulation is layered, maybe I'm wrong.

It's layered but we don't have an accepted layering that we can use for vs.

So will a page be opened about this soon?

Yeah.

 

[SilentBob34]

It's repeatedly implied throughout the series, but BLEACH is BLEACH, not DB. There is way more nuance than that. Within the same person, yes, increasing their SP will increase stats, but SP is only ~ your general stats (other than AP), not exactly it. This is why there's speed mains.

I agree with this 100%. Ichigo is a prime example. By the post timeskip his AP skyrockets past his speed by feats and scaling.