Baal vs Junco

[Robo432343]

Baal, The Gate of Hell

Baal ("The Master"), its the Messanger XXI, one of the entities that will bring the end of the world. Born from the events from the War of God, people wished to be a justification of all suffering, grief and misfortune of mankind, and from that idea and the amalgamation of gods corpses and...

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Junko (Touhou Project)

Junko (純狐) is the sworn enemy of the Lunarians, dedicating herself to their destruction following the death of her son at the hands of Chang'e's husband. Ultimately, she used her own power to purify anything to purify herself, turning herself into the embodiment of her own hate, a Divine Spirit...

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[LazerDim8000]

Baal, The Gate of Hell

Baal ("The Master"), its the Messanger XXI, one of the entities that will bring the end of the world. Born from the events from the War of God, people wished to be a justification of all suffering, grief and misfortune of mankind, and from that idea and the amalgamation of gods corpses and...

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Yukari Yakumo

Yukari Yakumo is a legendary youkai with the power to manipulate boundaries, and one of the youkai sages who created Gensokyo. Often called the "gap youkai," she is a remarkably youkai-like youkai who spends most of her time sleeping and relaxing. However, she is quite brilliant and is aware of...

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Should’ve used the nameless instead.

Baal, The Gate of Hell

Baal ("The Master"), its the Messanger XXI, one of the entities that will bring the end of the world. Born from the events from the War of God, people wished to be a justification of all suffering, grief and misfortune of mankind, and from that idea and the amalgamation of gods corpses and...

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Yukari Yakumo

Yukari Yakumo is a legendary youkai with the power to manipulate boundaries, and one of the youkai sages who created Gensokyo. Often called the "gap youkai," she is a remarkably youkai-like youkai who spends most of her time sleeping and relaxing. However, she is quite brilliant and is aware of...

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should’ve used the nameless tbh, but going from the pages it’ll seem she negs baal but I don’t think she can even understand baals physiology; No longer has ties to either the physical or spiritual word.He can control the soul flux as they see fit and boundary manipulation is practically useless against him as her attacks would never reach him; Perceives all planes of existence/nonexistence simultaneously, and can freely travel between or even battle across them, It bends space in order to prevent attacks reach it. How can she counter all that ? And she doesn’t have resistance to chaos manipulation

 

[Robo432343]

Should’ve used the nameless instead.

baal>nameless

 

[LazerDim8000]

baal>nameless

They’re equal normally but when nameless pulls out white hair nemesis form he’s one shot toast.

 

[Robo432343]

They’re equal normally but when nameless pulls out white hair nemesis form he’s one shot toast.

nameless is equal to Baal's avatar yes

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Don't Anima characters have batshit insane layering lol

This is kinda of a mismatch for right now.

 

[Robo432343]

Don't Anima characters have batshit insane layering lol

anima having 10 layers in the hax thread was accepted but u forgor to put them there

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

If it was accepted then this is a stomp.

 

[Robo432343]

If it was accepted then this is a stomp.

so anima characters can take the 3rd spot in non smurf list?

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

so anima characters can take the 3rd spot in non smurf list?

No, because I'm 99% sure they can't touch Junko's nonduality and layered type 2 NEP.

 

[Robo432343]

No, because I'm 99% sure they can't touch Junko's nonduality and layered type 2 NEP.

ah i thought they would be able to interact with the nonduality at least coz of this
"characters with certain forms of Causality Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation, Information Manipulation, Law Manipulation, or Mathematics Manipulation could potentially bestow these dualities on them, which would remove their nondual nature and render them vulnerable to attacks governed by the dualities."

and this guy has like 9 layers of CM

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

ah i thought they would be able to interact with the nonduality at least coz of this
"characters with certain forms of Causality Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation, Information Manipulation, Law Manipulation, or Mathematics Manipulation could potentially bestow these dualities on them, which would remove their nondual nature and render them vulnerable to attacks governed by the dualities."

and this guy has like 9 layers of CM

Yeah, but can he negate nonduality with it?

 

[Robo432343]

Yeah, but can he negate nonduality with it?

according to the nonduality page he might?

but even if he cant interact with the Nonduality or NEP, what could junko do to him? he has layered resistance to a lot of her haxes so i was thinking it might be incon

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

according to the nonduality page he might?

but even if he cant interact with the Nonduality or NEP, what could junko do to him? he has layered resistance to a lot of her haxes so i was thinking it might be incon

Just because characters with those abilities can theoretically neg nonduality doesn't mean they can in practice. They would need actual feats of doing so.

It'd be incon yeah

 

[Robo432343]

It'd be incon yeah

wanna add this to the profiles?

incon fra

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

no lol, there's literally no point

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

No, because I'm 99% sure they can't touch Junko's nonduality and layered type 2 NEP.

Since when could NEP be layered?......

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Since when could NEP be layered?......

Short explanation because I'm at work -

• Boundaries in Touhou govern the concepts of existence and nothingness.
• There is also the boundary between nothingness and "void" (or zero and an imaginary number).
• Beings can exist devoid of boundaries, and therefore devoid of existence, nonexistence, and the void that is absent of nonexistence. However, such beings still have "names" that bind them to reality.
• Junko is a nameless being who is devoid of all the aforementioned aspects.

 

[Robo432343]

would this be enough to interact with the NEP

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

would this be enough to interact with the NEP

Nah, I don't think so.