Avengers EMH Reaction Speed Downgrade

[Queen_Dasania]

The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes characters, such as Hulk are listed as having Relativistic+ combat speed with FTL reactions. However, I think this is flat out false. First off, both these stats come from the same feat. The Relativistic+ comes from the speed of Cap dodging the laser, the FTL comes from the time it took him to react. However, if I'm not mistaken, based off the speed page, the time it took cap to react is simply his perception speed. The distanced he moved is his reaction speed. So this means all EMH characters that are currently listed as Relativistic+ combat speed with FTL reactions should be downgraded to just Relativistic+ combat speed and reactions.

For further evidence/explanation, this calc resulted in Komaru having Relativistic+ reactions based off the distance she moved, not the time it took her to react

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Tbh, the calc itself is kinda bunk, since it gives no evidence that what Cap dodged a realistic light-based laser, unless there's something in the episode itself that suggests this

But I guess this should be okay. I'll wait for more input though

 

[Queen_Dasania]

Tbh, the calc itself is kinda bunk, since it gives no evidence that what Cap dodged a realistic light-based laser, unless there's something in the episode itself that suggests this

But I guess this should be okay. I'll wait for more input though

You're right actually. I've heard other people claim it's plasma. I may look and see if I can find any other feats on this level

 

[Queen_Dasania]

Tbh, the calc itself is kinda bunk, since it gives no evidence that what Cap dodged a realistic light-based laser, unless there's something in the episode itself that suggests this

But I guess this should be okay. I'll wait for more input though

I've looked, and the best feats aside from blasts and stuff, I'm only seeing Supersonic feats. Like Hulk's thunderclap, and Ironman catching up to a ship that was moving at 800 mph. So the verse is at least that fast. But I'm not seeing anything else suggested Relativistic+. There is lots of blast dodging, but I've not seen any evidence that any of these are light. So I might be onboard with downgrading the speed of the verse entirely unless we can find more evidence backing the current rating

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I've looked, and the best feats aside from blasts and stuff, I'm only seeing Supersonic feats. Like Hulk's thunderclap, and Ironman catching up to a ship that was moving at 800 mph. So the verse is at least that fast. But I'm not seeing anything else suggested Relativistic+. There is lots of blast dodging, but I've not seen any evidence that any of these are light. So I might be onboard with downgrading the speed of the verse entirely unless we can find more evidence backing the current rating

Thor does have a Massively Hypersonic feat and Maverick Zero X requested calcs for these feats

 

[Queen_Dasania]

Thor does have a Massively Hypersonic feat and Maverick Zero X requested calcs for these feats

Oh ok! The Thor feat does say that it's just flight speed, and not combat or reaction speed, but, from my understanding, travel speed generally inherently translates to combat speed since you can attack while traveling

Also, I'd love to do those calcs! Do calcs in that thread have to be done by calc group members? Also, how fast are gamma blasts?

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Oh ok! The Thor feat does say that it's just flight speed, and not combat or reaction speed, but, from my understanding, travel speed generally inherently translates to combat speed since you can attack while traveling

On many occasions, yes. Pretty sure Thor would count for that

Also, I'd love to do those calcs! Do calcs in that thread have to be done by calc group members? Also, how fast are gamma blasts?

Nah, any user can do them. Lightspeed, from what I remember

 

[Queen_Dasania]

On many occasions, yes. Pretty sure Thor would count for that

Nah, any user can do them. Lightspeed, from what I remember

I'll get on them then! Also, did some looking, and yeah, gamma travels at lightspeed. The calcs might take a bit, as the Thor and Iron man dodge in a separate frame, so finding distance would be hard, if possible. And the Black Panther one looks like it would require angsize calculating, which I have no experience with yet

 

[Queen_Dasania]

On many occasions, yes. Pretty sure Thor would count for that

Nah, any user can do them. Lightspeed, from what I remember

It took a bit, but here are those calcs. These, if accepted, would downgrade the verse to Relativistic. I suppose I'll go ahead and get them evaluated.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

It took a bit, but here are those calcs. These, if accepted, would downgrade the verse to Relativistic. I suppose I'll go ahead and get them evaluated.

Got them evaluated. First one is accepted. Second one needs to be redone with Thor

 

[Queen_Dasania]

Got them evaluated. First one is accepted. Second one needs to be redone with Thor

Alright, did the second, it got accepted. Both of those feats are Relativistic. So, the new downgrade is Relativistic speed and reactions. With evaluation done, what are your thoughts?

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

With evaluation done, what are your thoughts?

Calcs are accepted, so it should be fine to apply. Though more staff probably need to accept this CRT as well

 

[Queen_Dasania]

Calcs are accepted, so it should be fine to apply. Though more staff probably need to accept this CRT as well

I figured. I'm not fully sure offhand who to contact for this

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I figured. I'm not fully sure offhand who to contact for this

@Maverick_Zero_X @Dark-Carioca could you give input here please?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Agree with a downgrade to Relativistic reactions / combat.

 

[Queen_Dasania]

@Maverick_Zero_X @Dark-Carioca could you give input here please?

Are your and Maverick's opinions enough to apply this revision ?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Are your and Maverick's opinions enough to apply this revision ?

Yes,

But the downgrades are also straight forward, so I agree too now you definitely got enough

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Yes,

But the downgrades are also straight forward, so I agree too now you definitely got enough

Thank you. I applied the changes. This can be closed now