Avalon 6D consistency

[Regidian]

Hi i'm here to ask if Avalon still count as be 6D with the new high dimmensionnal tiering system.

Here the description of Avalon

The Ever-distant Utopia.
A sheathe crowned with the name of the land of fairies that appears in the legends of King Arthur, said to be wreathed in everlasting spring
It is a paradise reminiscent of the island in Greek mythology where the gods grew their golden apples of immortality
Not only does the holy sword’s sheathe heal all of its owner’s wounds and stagnate their aging, but when its true name is called it even decomposes into hundreds of parts and protects them from all interference
It was excavated from Cornwall by the Einzberns, and entrusted to Kiritsugu as a catalyst for summoning King Arthur
It is a Noble Phantasm at the level of magic, that completely shuts out all physical interference, transliners from parallel worlds, and communication from other dimensions (up to the sixth).....


And here this text shows how higher dimensionnal space works in the verse normaly

Rin: On the other hand, the laws of the Archival Space are different. Think of Archival Space as existing in the higher dimensions. From a higher dimension, 3D is like a flat fabric. Let's see...say the 3D world is a world written in a book, and jumping in it resulted in finding yourself outside of the book, okay? It becomes so that you are able to see from above your own past, present, future, in the form of records. This is the perspective of a higher dimension. Do you see? At that point, all time within the book becomes equal. After all, you can view any point in time you like, whenever you want. There's no past or future. It's the same as that.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

This is a topic that always ends badly lol..

 

[Regidian]

Surely lol, i know that the dimmensional thing in nasuverse is weird like his concept and most of his cosmologie but since avalon don't have show anti-feat for how much i remember...

 

[QuasiYuri]

Avalon doesn't have anti-feats iirc so it should be fine.

 

[Regidian]

Bump

 

[Ionliosite]

No.

 

[Regidian]

No.

Can be more developed?

 

[Ionliosite]

I was just expressing that this thread ends badly every time it is done, so I don't want to see the war start again.

 

[Regidian]

Hoh okay but well one day we still need to know about it lol

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Let us run off the assumption that it passed the standards checklist to qualify (Which is a whole different type of debate)


it scaling to anything related to a texture on the planet is unlikely due to how many there are. We know that avalon is the center and we don't know or seen anything that would affect the center of the planet. can't scale off of what if's

2.) Artoria lost her NP and regained it again in Fate route of stay night but she only obtained it for like an Autosecond. not for sure what the standards are for that but i been hearing how it was removed from her profile at one point because it was a 1 off feat that lasted for less than a minute.

 

[Regidian]

I don't ask if people or thing scale to this, i ask if avalon qualify to be 6D with the new system

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I don't really know much about Nasuverse, other then the fact that threads tend to end badly.

 

[Regidian]

So we have to wait for the day when doing this threat will not let begin a new war ?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Considering that Monarch retired, DragonMaster said he was going to take a break from the wiki, Prom basically said she didn't want to touch a Nasuverse thread again, Glassman mentioning he's only familiar with a specific subseries, and many other things. I have no idea what can be done.

 

[QuasiYuri]

Having members who're knowledgeable and willingful enough to do it is kinda the only thing.

 

[Regidian]

I think too

 

[XDragnoir]

So, 6D Root? And 6D Avalon? And 6D Shiki?

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

So, 6D Root? And 6D Avalon? And 6D Shiki?

1-A Root; Avalon can negate the second true magic so 6D physical space with a 1-A Barrier

 

[XDragnoir]

1-A Root; Avalon can negate the second true magic so 6D physical space with a 1-A Barrier

You didn't say Shiki would have 1A MEoDP so your post is invalid.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

You didn't say Shiki would have 1A MEoDP so your post is invalid.

She scales to the Root ssssooooo

 

[Regidian]

.

 

[Strife304]

From what I understand, these threads usually end badly, so can we try working in a group or something to try and sort out stuff like this?

Same with things concerning the base stats of servants, NPs, etc. I think organizing all the available fate content we can will help get things in a more agreeable state...

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Someone informed me offsite about 6-D stuff being retconned.

 

[Regidian]

Someone informed me offsite about 6-D stuff being retconned.

Should send the info

 

[Regidian]

From what I understand, these threads usually end badly, so can we try working in a group or something to try and sort out stuff like this?

Same with things concerning the base stats of servants, NPs, etc. I think organizing all the available fate content we can will help get things in a more agreeable state...

Why not

 

[Ionliosite]

Someone informed me offsite about 6-D stuff being retconned.

? When? Like, I don't think Avalon is Tier 1, but that's more because the dimensions not qualifying rather than anything of them being retconned since higher-d stuff is mentioned in Grand Order.

 

[QuasiYuri]

Well, the OP's scans is litteraly a qualification

 

[Ionliosite]

Well, the OP's scans is litteraly a qualification

Yeah, but the text in the OP isn't about Avalon.

 

[QuasiYuri]

Avalon is about blocking stuff, including from higher dimensions. I don't really see why it wouldn't include higher dimensions such as the one in the OP (which is the point they're making, as far as I understand).

 

[Ionliosite]

Avalon is about blocking stuff, including from higher dimensions. I don't really see why it wouldn't include higher dimensions such as the one in the OP (which is the point they're making, as far as I understand).

Because the quote in the OP isn't talking about the actual higher dimension, but about the Archival Space.

 

[Regidian]

Archival space is tell to be a higher dimmension so what the prob?

 

[Ionliosite]

Archival space is tell to be a higher dimmension so what the prob?

No no no. You're taking the quote completely wrong if you think Rin is saying that.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

I mean if you want avalon scans I can post them

 

[Regidian]

Not just rin tell it even rani tell it

Rani :: …Indeed. We can conjecture that it is in order to prevent them from deviating from their function as observational mechanisms, but…In truth, it may have been to prevent cases like the present one from occurring. The Moon Cell is the eyes of god. The photon-based recording medium in the Core is a higher dimensional existence.

 

[Regidian]

And i don't see how you want to understand her quote. Recorded universe(archive space) is a higher dimmension space, the core belong to the recorded universe, it's why BB obtained a higher dimmensionnal perspective when fusing with it.

"Since you can always turn to whatever time you want to. There’s no past or future. It’s the same as that. This is imaginary number space, a higher dimensional information space made from light. The far side of the moon is fundamentally operated according to the laws of the recorded universe, not the observed universe. We are foreign bodies…no, guests. Creatures of the the observed universe that have been thrown into the recorded universe. Whereas the Moon Cell’s Core is a concurrent world simulator where all possibilities are calculated and the past, present, and future all exist at the same time. In other words, it belongs to the recorded universe. BB has become that Moon Cell. She’s obtained a higher dimensional perspective."

 

[Regidian]

I mean if you want avalon scans I can post them

Can be good if other people want more info