Attempt to bring back post sakaar Hulk key

[Coolboy6]

Why was the post sakaar Hulk key removed? He’s clearly stronger than he was before




He was CLEARLY doing better against Thor on Sakaar than on Earth. Seriously, how did ANYONE forget that?

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

I mean not really. They were both going back and forth in both of these fights.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Thor wasn't initially bloodlusted when he fought Hulk in Ragnarok, he wanted to calm Banner down, even stating he doesn't wanna fight him. That and Hulk in the first fight is shown to be vaguely stronger. Plus, the moment Thor got serious, the fight started to be more even

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Most of Hulks advantages in the Sakaar fight were gained via taking Thor by surprise. If anything, I'd argue Hulk did worse considering Thor didn't have Mjonir with him this time.

 

[Hellbeast]

Thor wasn't initially bloodlusted when he fought Hulk in Ragnarok, he wanted to calm Banner down, even stating he doesn't wanna fight him. That and Hulk in the first fight is shown to be vaguely stronger. Plus, the moment Thor got serious, the fight started to be more even

Also

• Thor did not have Mjolnir
• Hulk has no scaling that implies he's gotten stronger beyond this specific showing
• Hulk has likely grown more skilled rather then more powerful
• The difference is so minor it adds literally nothing to Hulk

 

[KLOL506]

Agree with Hellbeast and Crimson_Shadow. Once Thor got serious and tapped into his real power, Hulk got whooped.

And of course, Hulk staggering Surtur means nothing, considering just how superior the latter is and that he was relatively undamaged despite being staggered a bit.

 

[Coolboy6]

Has no one talked about the fact that Hulk has been Hulk for 2 years and has been TRAINING on Sakaar for those years? How does no one take THAT into consideration?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

And? How does that change much. In the fight with Thor, we see that Hulk isn't that different in strength than he was a few years ago.

 

[Coolboy6]

And? How does that change much. In the fight with Thor, we see that Hulk isn't that different in strength than he was a few years ago.

How tf do you not realize a lot can change in those years? Hulk also was CLEARLY jumping higher up to mountain size heights when he was about to face Surtur.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

And how is that proof of an increase in his AP?

 

[Hellbeast]

Has no one talked about the fact that Hulk has been Hulk for 2 years and has been TRAINING on Sakaar for those years? How does no one take THAT into consideration?

Yes I mentioned that he has likely grown in skill

Unfortunately we have no idea of said training actually made him stronger and it’s thus Far hardly notable enough to base an entirely new key around

 

[Coolboy6]

And how is that proof of an increase in his AP?

It’s literally an increase in strength. Wtf. His post sakaar key should also get a likely higher rating for pushing Thanos back and staggering Surtur full force.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

It’s literally an increase in strength. Wtf. His post sakaar key should also get a likely higher rating for pushing Thanos back and staggering Surtur full force.

Staggering someone doesn't really count for AP from what I've been told. Hulk took Thanos by surprise and Thanos proceeded to clap him casually afterwards, The former doing no damage at all. And we see in Thor vs Hulk in Ragnarok, the two could fight evenly after Thor became serious.

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Yeah, I agree with keeping things as we already have them.

 

[Coolboy6]

Staggering someone doesn't really count for AP from what I've been told. Hulk took Thanos by surprise and Thanos proceeded to clap him casually afterwards, The former doing no damage at all. And we see in Thor vs Hulk in Ragnarok, the two could fight evenly after Thor became serious.

Hulk also took hits from awakened Thor also to support a likely higher rating.
Mountain level+ (got stronger after training on Sakaar, can overpower a pre awakend Thor), likely higher (took Thanos by surprise and took hits from Awakend Thor)

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

can overpower a pre awakend Tho

This is false. Thor is shown to be almost on par with Hulk after he got serious.

 

[Coolboy6]

This is false. Thor is shown to be almost on par with Hulk after he got serious.

That is true. Hulk beat up Thor so hard he saw images of Odin.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

How is him seeing images of Odin related to Hulk punching him hard?

 

[Coolboy6]

How is him seeing images of Odin related to Hulk punching him hard?

Because Hulk wasn’t doing that to Thor on earth before sakaar. Not hard to understand.

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Because Hulk wasn’t doing that to Thor on earth before sakaar. Not hard to understand.

Odin was alive during that time.

 

[Antvasima]

So should we keep things as they are or add "likely/possibly higher" to the Hulk?

 

[Dalesean027]

Nah it's good I think we got this sorted out since most seem to think it unnecessary

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Nah it's good I think we got this sorted out since most seem to think it unnecessary

Agreed

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Should we close this thread then?

 

[Dalesean027]

Yes

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.