Ashen One vs Lux Arcadia

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

• Speed Equal
• Both 8-B
• SBA

Skills:

Curses:

Inconclusives:

 

[Ionliosite]

So, what does Ashen One lead with?

 

[Wokistan]

It's a game character, so anything. OP is gonna want to set some gear parameters

 

[Ionliosite]

Well, Lux's incap method would be breaking all his limbs with Critical Hit.

 

[Jinsye]

uh-

Breaking limbs?

How good is AO's type 2 because fairly sure that'll counteract that.

That and being a zombie.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Also pretty sure the ashen one has suicide moves and teleportation that allow him to bypass limbs getting broken

 

[Ionliosite]

I don't see anything saying Ashen One can tank the 8-A hits.

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

Is this Wyvern lux? or his 1st key?

 

[Ionliosite]

It just says "8-B Lux", so SBA tells us Lux with Wyvern (New Kingdom arc).

 

[WeeklyBattles]

He doesnt need to tank them. He can just resurrect

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Ashen One has Mid-Godly equivalent resurrection, not needing soul, mind, or body to return. If incapacitated, they can kill themselves basically by thinking. A bit light on the hax side, they're of the "Unkillable Bastard" type category of character. Their main shtick for combat is when they do manage to kill something, they absorb the soul, meaning it takes an unkillable bastard in kind to survive.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Yeah so, Lux has no way to put down or incapacitate Ashen One. This is a stomp unless Lux has some way to get rid of the Undead curse.

 

[Wokistan]

Ashen one isnt even cursed, unless you talk to that hill dude and start the yuria quest. I don't think even breaking the curse stops them.

If we're gonna be unspecified, I'll assume some of the cool magic stuff is here. In which case we got darkdrift to pierce defenses, Dark Hand to rip out souls even pre mortem, a couple regen spells, homing Crystal soulmass/affinity, Lifehunt Scythe, invisible weapon, invisible body, body disguised as an ally, body disguised as a background object, invisibile rolling, giant clouds of Mercury, and of course, the darksign to escape incap by just respawning on demand.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Lux is never getting past the resurrection of Ashen One

Btw @Wokistan, Dark Hand rips out life energy, not really souls

 

[Wokistan]

It does lower their soul count when the L2 hits, pretty sure.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Well, the ability was called "Lifedrain" I believe.

 

[Ionliosite]

Ashen Ond doesn't have regen tho, isn't his type 8 based on being killed?

 

[Wokistan]

You can also manually trigger it on demand. A few spells will give regen for a little bit. There are a ''lot'' of healing items.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Ashen can kill himself and can't really be KO'd due to being undead

 

[Schnee_One]

Lux: Incaps

Ashen: Aight Imma Head out (Dies)

Later

Ashen: Yo

Lux: Dafa-Dead

 

[SpookyShadow]

Exactly what every boss fight is

 

[Schnee_One]

Indeed

Anyway. Stomp

 

[Ionliosite]

I mean, Ashen One can't even touch Lux, how is he supposed to defeat him?

 

[Schnee_One]

Uhh

Why can't he

 

[SpookyShadow]

Why can't he touch him

 

[Ionliosite]

Why could he?

 

[SpookyShadow]

...what

 

[Ionliosite]

How can Ashen touch Lux?

 

[Wokistan]

Because having a big cloud of mercury spawned on top of you isn't really a thing you can dodge

 

[Schnee_One]

What is this argument

Lemme reach the bare minimum here for wincons like the fact that Lux at the absolute best gets outlived and out stamina'd

 

[SpookyShadow]

I'm going to use this argument in every thread from now

"He can't touch him"

"Why tho"

"Why can he?"

 

[Ionliosite]

Because having a big cloud of mercury spawned on top of you isn't really a thing you can dodge

Mercury is just toxic, Lux resist poison manip.

 

[Schnee_One]

Anyway. Can I close this?

 

[SpookyShadow]

It's more like acid

 

[Ionliosite]

What is this argument

Lemme reach the bare minimum here for wincons like the fact that Lux at the absolute best gets outlives and out stamina'd

Ashen doesn't even have infinite stamina to out stamina

 

[Wokistan]

It's also really hot. He just burns to death. Does that to the poison immune things, so yeah.

Also poison is dosage based. That's a massive dosage, with mercury not needing much to be fatal in the first place.

Go ahead

 

[SpookyShadow]

The mercury works on dragons like Midir so

He doesn't have infinite stamina but it regenerates fast as hell

 

[Schnee_One]

Ashen doesn't even have infinite stamina to out stamina

Actually he does, it's called dying when you're tired, which is a very common tactic

 

[SpookyShadow]

don't close it yet

 

[Schnee_One]

Don't worry not going to yet, want to address any arguments first