Artoria (low 6B)vs karna (low 6B)

[God243]

Saber (Fate/stay night)

Saber (セイバー, Seibā?) is the Saber-class Servant of Kiritsugu Emiya during the Fourth Holy Grail War, and then of his son, Shirou Emiya, during the Fifth. Her actual name is Artoria Pendragon, better known as King Arthur, the "Once and Future King" and a legendary hero of Britain. She became king...

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Lancer of Red (Karna)

Lancer of "Red" ("赤あか"のランサー, "Aka" no Ransā?) is the Lancer-class Servant of the Red Faction in the Great Holy Grail War. While he is originally summoned by Feend vor Sembren of the Red Faction, he later becomes one of the Servants of Shirou Kotomine. He also appears in E Pluribus Unum, the...

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Karna:
Artoria:

 

[God243]

Bump

 

[DaReaperMan]

Karna kinda just stomps, better skill, better AP, much better durability, and the only thing letting Artoria at all last is Precog

 

[CrystalValley]

yeah she isnt doing shit. Excalibur is inferior to VS and can be dodged easily. she has no answer for his better everything.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Which Artoria even is this?

 

[thesurvivlist]

Which Artoria even is this?

It's one of the first 3 keys, doesn't really matter though as she still gets stomped even with Rin as her Master.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

It's one of the first 3 keys, doesn't really matter though as she still gets stomped even with Rin as her Master.

I mean if it's Fate Artoria, doesn't she have Avalon?

 

[thesurvivlist]

I mean if it's Fate Artoria, doesn't she have Avalon?

True, I guess if it is Fate Artoria she would have Avalon which will be useful in blocking VS meaning it will even up the odds but Karna still has better Durability and skill. If Artoria gets a clean hit on Karna using her beam she wins if it doesn't turn into a beam clash.

 

[DaReaperMan]

True, I guess if it is Fate Artoria she would have Avalon which will be useful in blocking VS meaning it will even up the odds but Karna still has better Durability and skill. If Artoria gets a clean hit on Karna using her beam she wins if it doesn't turn into a beam clash.

Vasavi Shati or whatever will guaranteed hit Artoria with Avalon up

 

[thesurvivlist]

Vasavi Shati or whatever will guaranteed hit Artoria with Avalon up

It does? how?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Vasavi Shati or whatever will guaranteed hit Artoria with Avalon up

The ****? If Enuma Elish couldn't get through Avalon then how the **** is Vasavi Shakti gonna do it?

 

[DaReaperMan]

It does? how?

Via being straight up 6-D

The ****? If Enuma Elish couldn't get through Avalon then how the **** is Vasavi Shakti gonna do it?

Enuma Elish varies from 3 or 4-D to 6-D depending on how much Gil charges it, it's got 6-D hax though lol

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Avalon is outright stated as blocking out stuff up to 6-D, so that hardly matters even if you want to use that terrible scaling. It's supposed to scale off of the White Titan, which could explicitly not get to Avalon even when it got to destroy the world in Lostbelt 6.

With Avalon, Artoria should win. In a fight as newly summoned Servants, she almost certainly dies assuming Karna has a Master capable of maintaining him.