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Arknight Discussion Thread

Post this to have all arknights's fans behind my ass wanting to kill me.
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Why is there a scaling chain to Lifebone when there's no scan crediting him creating that space? There's more evidence that his special physiology grants him interdimensional travel to reach that unknown space. Where's the scan that says he created that space in chapter 13?

People scaling to Lifebone is also suspicious considering Sanguinarch only fought a Lifebone that was asleep the whole time, and would only respond unless it was the Demon King that greeted him. A serious Lifebone that would engage in a fight doesn't exist and his apathetic personality really drives that in.
 
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Legacy30 said:
Why is there a scaling chain to Lifebone when there's no scan crediting him creating that space? There's more evidence that his special physiology grants him interdimensional travel to reach that unknown space. Where's the scan that says he created that space in chapter 13?

People scaling to Lifebone is also suspicious considering Sanguinarch only fought a Lifebone that was asleep the whole time, and would only respond unless it was the Demon King that greeted him. A serious Lifebone that would engage in a fight doesn't exist and his apathetic personality really drives that in.
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Legacy30 said:
Why is there a scaling chain to Lifebone when there's no scan crediting him creating that space? There's more evidence that his special physiology grants him interdimensional travel to reach that unknown space. Where's the scan that says he created that space in chapter 13?

People scaling to Lifebone is also suspicious considering Sanguinarch only fought a Lifebone that was asleep the whole time, and would only respond unless it was the Demon King that greeted him. A serious Lifebone that would engage in a fight doesn't exist and his apathetic personality really drives that in.
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The feat isn’t just Lifebone, it scales off the support from people like Dusk and her paintings which has a Sun with a Day and Night Cycle. Said painting world(which according to the Who is Real event) is created by Dusk herself is capable of supporting life as people like Saga are capable of surviving for at least a decade within it and each painting has their own flow of time. (Saga’s skin even implies that she was happy to live out her life in there). And Dusk has hundreds to potentially thousands of those paintings, with people living in there.

The Lifebone feat takes into consideration that Lifebone was asleep and wasn’t(still isn’t) trying as well and even the Saguinarch acknowledges it.
Said space is also more likely to be created by Lifebone(or at least related to it’s existence) because since each Feranmut were created for specific purposes by the Precursors, a species that has overcome FTL travel, mind projection, spatial manipulation, and even soul manipulation, Such a species would have no need to create a being that is a poor imitation of their capabilities with just teleportation through spatial manipulation . It is just a waste of resources against the observers. So there is a more likely chance that rather than just teleporting, it is capable of creation. But that is contentious.

So if we are keeping it real, anyone stronger than Dusk should get 4-C to potentially 4-A. Sanguinarch, Amiya, Lifebone, the entire Sarkaz Court, and Leaders of the Military Commission should be able to easily scale to and above it since they are far greater than Dusk one of(might deadass be the) the weakest Sui fragments. This will include also the members of every faction that are capable of contending with Dusk.
 
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Also just as I am reading the Path of Life Event on NA. It confirms that all Feranmunts create their own unique ecosystem within themselves. So it is far more likely that Lifebone created it rather than just travels through it.

Proof:

So yeah, the 4-A isn’t possibly anymore. It is directly confirmed
 
Legacy30 said:
Why is there a scaling chain to Lifebone when there's no scan crediting him creating that space?
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Didn't see this before but I'll reply to it now, there is a scan that credits him creating the space, it's right here.
Legacy30 said:
There's more evidence that his special physiology grants him interdimensional travel to reach that unknown space. Where's the scan that says he created that space in chapter 13?
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My guy...if he didn't have the ability to reach the space he wouldn't be able to do it. It's that simple, there's no need for the mental gymnastics. There are multiple direct statements that show the Lifebone is capable of this both in chapter 13 and after it.
Legacy30 said:
People scaling to Lifebone is also suspicious considering Sanguinarch only fought a Lifebone that was asleep the whole time, and would only respond unless it was the Demon King that greeted him.
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There is absolutely nothing that states or implies the Lifebone was asleep when Sanguinarch killed it, this is entirely head cannon. The only time it's mentioned that it was "asleep" or more accurately not conscious was after the battle with Sanguinarch and that was due to it's consciousness and power being split into the staff & key that Mostima has. Nothing states or implies that it was asleep before that battle.
Legacy30 said:
A serious Lifebone that would engage in a fight doesn't exist and his apathetic personality really drives that in.
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Likewise, Sanguinarch wasn't trying when he killed the Lifebone so this is mostly a mute point. He was younger, weaker, less experienced with his arts and didn't receive a literal temporal buff that allowed him to manipulate blood from when the Teekaz began calling themselves Sarkaz (which was over 8,000 years ago). This same older, far more experienced, objectively stronger and amped Sanguinarch then proceeds to lose to Amiya. The chain scaling is incredibly simple and consistent, it gets even more consistent when you take chapter 14 feats into account which blow chapter 13 and the Lifebone feats completely out of the water.
 
To add further support, weaker Feranmuts such as Dusk are able to create their own realms with a different flow of time from the normal universe that have a sun inside them and she has 100s to 1000s of these. From this, characters like Chongyue are able to shatter and destroy all of these painted realms by performing his morning exercises.
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
Didn't see this before but I'll reply to it now, there is a scan that credits him creating the space, it's right here.
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That scan doesn't say he created that space. Sanguinarch found this place after driving around his skeleton corpse because he can control it. Nowhere does the text says he created it.
AlipheeseXIV said:
My guy...if he didn't have the ability to reach the space he wouldn't be able to do it. It's that simple, there's no need for the mental gymnastics. There are multiple direct statements that show the Lifebone is capable of this both in chapter 13 and after it.
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? I never argued that he can't reach this space, that's literally what I was arguing for. Don't misread my words this badly. Also, reaching a place =/= creating it. Since I reached the continent of America on an airplane, does that mean I or the airplane created it?
AlipheeseXIV said:
There is absolutely nothing that states or implies the Lifebone was asleep when Sanguinarch killed it, this is entirely head cannon. The only time it's mentioned that it was "asleep" or more accurately not conscious was after the battle with Sanguinarch and that was due to it's consciousness and power being split into the staff & key that Mostima has. Nothing states or implies that it was asleep before that battle.
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? Part of Lifebone's corpse being turned into staff & key did not happen before his corpse was butchered after being killed by Sanguinarch. This is irrelevant to the offscreen fight. And he was asleep when he met Sanguinarch and woke up after taking a beating. After that it's offscreen and we have no clue if Lifebone even fought back.
AlipheeseXIV said:
Likewise, Sanguinarch wasn't trying when he killed the Lifebone so this is mostly a mute point. He was younger, weaker, less experienced with his arts and didn't receive a literal temporal buff that allowed him to manipulate blood from when the Teekaz began calling themselves Sarkaz (which was over 8,000 years ago). This same older, far more experienced, objectively stronger and amped Sanguinarch then proceeds to lose to Amiya. The chain scaling is incredibly simple and consistent, it gets even more consistent when you take chapter 14 feats into account which blow chapter 13 and the Lifebone feats completely out of the water.
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This doesn't tell me anything about Sanguinarch's actual tiering other than he wasn't trying with the offscreen fight. Likewise, Lifebone also doesn't show that he fought back or if he even was serious either, so using it to scale is suspect.

About the Dusk thing, that's just chain scaling to a 4-C feat, the feat of creating the starry sky isn't conclusive enough, and there's not enough evidence that it's an inherent racial ability of feranmutts to create literal pocket dimensions outside of specific ones like Dusk. And if someone brings up feranmutts being able to create ecosystems inside their bodies, I can respond with saying that's a separate ability entirely from creating literal pocket dimensions. Dusk's scroll worlds don't even exist in her body, they exist outside of it.

Also, don't tag me again for this months old thing. I'm not gonna respond after this about this topic. Just leave it as agree to disgaree.
 
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That won't be till we get to ch 14 stuff but yes, she'll 100% get one cuz she's a major contributor to scaling and one of the strongest characters in the verse rn
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
That won't be till we get to ch 14 stuff but yes, she'll 100% get one cuz she's a major contributor to scaling and one of the strongest characters in the verse rn
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Just curious. Now that you’ve stated Theresa’s standings in terms of this verse’s power tiering, where does our dear little Amiya sit right now currently?
 
Yeah what Bummel said, Amiya is one of the strongest characters in the verse rn. Not including alt timeline IS stuff the only people stronger than her in the main canon is Observer and arguably Priestess
 
Yay Arknights buffs
I think its wacky how Amiya soloes the main “gacha” FGO though, since its 4-A vs 5-A. VSBW nerfed FGO hard. Still weaker than GBF and Honkai but maybe that will change soon, who knows…
 
Will we eventually be adding integrated strategies? Some character variants are significantly stronger than their original forms, for example IS5 Amiya.

Also could I get a fresh invite to that discord server
 
But yeah sure we can make new discussion thread for endfield

Though we still link originium arts and collapsal stuff later from its arknights profiles
 
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