Are primordials the strongest?

[Tbone91]

If primordials are the concepts they represent, doesn't that make them the most powerful figures in the GoW verse? If not, why not?

 

[KLOL506]

Being a concept doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. Layers and scaling chains and all that.

Also, Primordials literally end up being beaten by their own kids. The whole plot of GoW runs around the cycle of sons killing their parents.

 

[Planck69]

Why would being a concept make them the strongest? That has no bearing on overall power, in and of itself.

 

[Tbone91]

Being a concept doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. Layers and scaling chains and all that.

Also, Primordials literally end up being beaten by their own kids. The whole plot of GoW runs around the cycle of sons killing their parents.

I'm not talking about their avatars. I'm talking about their actual conceptual forms. For example thanatos' physical form is dead but the concept of death still lives on, am i wrong?

 

[jotarostudio9812]

I'm not talking about their avatars. I'm talking about their actual conceptual forms. For example thanatos' physical form is dead but the concept of death still lives on, am i wrong?

Because kratos successfully absorbed the concept of death from Thanatos and confirmed by Zeus that kratos becomes death the destroyer of worlds in ghost of sparta

 

[KLOL506]

I'm talking about their actual conceptual forms. For example thanatos' physical form is dead but the concept of death still lives on, am i wrong?

This still has no bearing on their overall power levels.

Your true form being conceptual in nature is completely irrelevant to how strong you are. You still need outside feats. It's why we can have CM1 forces without needing them to be universal in size.

 

[KLOL506]

Because kratos successfully absorbed the concept of death from Thanatos and confirmed by Zeus that kratos becomes death the destroyer of worlds in ghost of sparta

Again this still has no actual bearing on overall power levels. Being a concept means nothing without feats to show for it.

 

[Tbone91]

This still has no bearing on their overall power levels.

Your true form being conceptual in nature is completely irrelevant to how strong you are. You still need outside feats. It's why we can have CM1 forces without needing them to be universal in size.

You're right but even zeus eventually died, what about the primordials? They still live on and will continue to live on at least in an abstract way. The fact that the primordials continue to live on while even zeus and odin can die it makes me wonder if the fact that primordials continue to exist means they are the strongest

 

[KLOL506]

They still live on and will continue to live on at least in an abstract way.

Again, this means nothing for overall power.

The fact that the primordials continue to live on while even zeus and odin can die it makes me wonder if the fact that primordials continue to exist means they are the strongest

No? Again, nothing in the games insinuate this. It just means they hid like the cowards they are.

Take heed that the Primordials in their conceptual form were also unable to do anything about toppling the Olympians, otherwise why would Gaia have to ask Kratos to take on the Fates himself, the Fates who are repeatedly stated to be untouchable by anyone save for Kratos himself? Even after Gaia got her body back she was getting shredded to Swiss Cheese by Poseidon and got gaped by Zeus with a single bolt. Hell, why stop there? The Great Evils literally affected the Primordials themselves, they themselves fell victim to their own madness and rage created by said Evils.

Nevermind the fact that Ascended Athena exists, who is repeatedly stated to be above everyone else, including the Evils, minus Hope.

As for Ymir? His Dream Realm is literally just his consciousness. Nobody save for the Giants can access it and it isn't even noteworthy in terms of feats at all.

 

[Tbone91]

Again, this means nothing for overall power.


No? Again, nothing in the games insinuate this. It just means they hid like the cowards they are.

Take heed that the Primordials in their conceptual form were also unable to do anything about toppling the Olympians, otherwise why would Gaia have to ask Kratos to take on the Fates himself, the Fates who are repeatedly stated to be untouchable by anyone save for Kratos himself? Even after Gaia got her body back she was getting shredded to Swiss Cheese by Poseidon and got gaped by Zeus with a single bolt. Hell, why stop there? The Great Evils literally affected the Primordials themselves, they themselves fell victim to their own madness and rage created by said Evils.

Nevermind the fact that Ascended Athena exists, who is repeatedly stated to be above everyone else, including the Evils, minus Hope.

As for Ymir? His Dream Realm is literally just his consciousness. Nobody save for the Giants can access it and it isn't even noteworthy in terms of feats at all.

This answers my question. Thank you for taking the time to help.

 

[KLOL506]

K then. Asking a thread mod to close it.

@KingTempest

 

[KingTempest]

Aight