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Arc System Works Discussion Thread 2

Zyurtunder13 said:
No seriously, what are you even trying to say there??
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That I don't take the controversy over Bridget's gender identity seriously at all. Like did you not think about (oh, there's no one really complaining about Sol lesbian so he must not be taking it seriously at all). It's not that hard to get the bit.
 
Ikelaggan said:
That I don't take the controversy over Bridget's gender identity seriously at all. Like did you not think about (oh, there's no one really complaining about Sol lesbian so he must not be taking it seriously at all). It's not that hard to get the bit.
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"Controversy" And it's just dumb losers crying and denying facts, that Bridget is canonically a trans woman and they can't do anything about it, my problem is that you linked that transphobic loser for an unfunny **** "joke"
 
Zyurtunder13 said:
"Controversy" And it's just dumb losers crying and denying facts, that Bridget is canonically a trans woman and they can't do anything about it, my problem is that you linked that transphobic loser for an unfunny **** "joke"
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The fact arc system works writers and translators still wrote I-No being a sex offender that assaulted a trans woman is still funny to me because they never patched that out in hindsight. it's also funny seeing this random "transphobic loser" on Twitter pretty much making you mad seeing his posts when he probably doesn't even know you exist.
 
Ikelaggan said:
The fact arc system works writers and translators still wrote I-No being a sex offender that assaulted a trans woman is still funny to me because they never patched that out in hindsight. it's also funny seeing this random "transphobic loser" on Twitter pretty much making you mad seeing his posts when he probably doesn't even know you exist.
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He isn't a "transphobic loser", he IS a transphobic loser, stop with the nonsense dude
 
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Holy sh#t !
Ragna is back
――― This is a bit of a tangent, but…

The BLAZBLUE series has already concluded, but when looking at the official website for DAMON and BABY, there’s a “familiar face,” right?

Is it okay to expect that this might hint at some kind of new development for the BLAZBLUE series?

Ishiwatari:
If I were to give a conclusion… well… it’s a bit hard to say outright (laughs).
Everyone: (laughs)
Ishiwatari:
Well, that really is Ragna from BLAZBLUE.
In BLAZBLUE, at the end, Ragna erases his own existence.Because of that, from the perspective of the GUILTY GEAR timeline, the world of BLAZBLUE is something that could exist, but is an “unobserved world.”
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・Lord Bloodedge | from the official DAMON and BABY website

So, he’s in a state where very little of his past memories remain.

As for “what he’s doing here now,” that hasn’t been fully depicted yet, but he is definitely an important character who will be deeply involved going forward.

So you can think of this as the very first step toward the “Arc Universe.”
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Something tells me Daisuke doesn’t know what Unobserved World means in the context of BlazBlue given it still exists after CF.
 
Also to recap and understand the Azure Grimoire is not only created from Black Beast, and connected to the Boundary by being portal Cauldron...but also The Backyard due to being same as the Tome of Origin (The Tome of Origin is a book that The Original sealed the essence of the Backyard into)?

As well as the fact that BB’s infinite-sized Boundary (a higher-dimensional space that connects/transcends all timelines, holds infinite information/possibilities, and is outside normal time/space) is now the same structure as GG’s Backyard meaning everything of the two are connected. Thus proving how vast and infinite The Boundary is...and pretty much stating the previous ignored stuff of Izanami being higher than planet level. As all of The Backyard stuff is added to the stuff in The Boundary.

Black Beast (and Ragna’s Azure Grimoire, which is literally a compressed Black Beast/mini-Cauldron) can destroy possibilities, overwrite events, and erase concepts like Death. Hakumen's feats against the Black Beast and later other character's feats to Izanami along with Mu-12, Ragna, and Naoto’s fights had multiversal possibility-ending stakes as are all now scaled to Backyard-scale, so GG characters pulling from the same source (I-No, Happy Chaos, Asuka, etc.) scale to it.

Hakumen’s soul inside the Susano’o Unit is extremely hard to affect (Terumi needed the Hihiirokane specifically to rip it out) this carries over.

The stuff with the planet stuff of Izanami can be shown that the downplay of it (Saying its only planet level) was not true, since we know in BB that Kokonoe explicitly calls out Izanami’s statements as deceptive and notes she has multiple ways to kill Amaterasu (the Master Unit). Izanami’s vessel is constantly deteriorating (Relius calls it a miracle she functions at all). She was getting weaker during that scene. Requiem’s explosion (comparable to the Master Unit) is stated as a lowball by Kokonoe. The blast happens inside an Embryo/possibility sandwich, so even the “dimension-crushing” aspect gets downplayed to universal at minimum. Now with Backyard stuff...wouldn't this be even more higher?
 
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I feel like the fact the Tome of Origins has the power to seal what makes the Backyard what it is inside of it, and the Azure is merely channeling the Boundary's power implies the Backyard is lesser than the Boundary.
 
I don't know if this is accurate...

I am not sure but I heard this implies that The Tome of Origin is mentioned to equal Ragna's base Azure Grimoire. Before Ragna's Ideal Engine boosted Azure Grimoire that he gained in Continuum Shift.

Like damn if that is true tho (I may be wrong).
 
They don’t make any reference to the IDEA Engine so it’s likely just base Azure Grimoire
 
Thats honestly crazy since this would scale base Azure Grimoire to Tome of Origin and in process the Backyard (And other GG characters). When you take into account IDEA Engine Azure Grimoire he gained in CS.
 
What's even crazier is the implications of scaling the Tome of Origins gets once I'm done with the BlazBlue overhaul.
 
Plus it would mean in a sense...Ideal Engine Azure Grimoire scales HIGHER than Tome of Origin. Also with Sankishin Units being scaled higher than Azure Grimoire even with Ideal Engine.

Then adding in The True Azure is scaled even MORE higher.

BlazBlue now has better showing of higher scaling since it was already highly broken OP (But hit with downplay due to misunderstanding or taken some things face value without listening to greater context).
 

I don't think this book in damon and baby is either the tome of origin or the azure grimoire because this book is literally a replica of the sage of stone which is probably it's own thing inverse while it's alternate titles are the tome of origin or azure grimoire as a reference rather than a connection.
 
It looks like the Tome of Origins to me dude, even has the same gear thing on the front cover and all. Also even if we’re saying Sol is stronger by Overture, Strive has him get bodied by Asuka when he used the book on him so unless he got weaker in Strive during that confrontation somehow, Ragna would still be stronger.
 
Theglassman12 said:
It looks like the Tome of Origins to me dude, even has the same gear thing on the front cover and all.
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Hey I'm not going to change your mind if if you believe that asset flip is the real deal replica of the tome of origin or not
Theglassman12 said:
Also even if we’re saying Sol is stronger by Overture, Strive has him get bodied by Asuka when he used the book on him so unless he got weaker in Strive during that confrontation somehow, Ragna would still be stronger.
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Yeah, Sol is just objectively weaker in strive getting carried hard by nago after losing his powers as well as even going further back to Xrd with those mountain level statements creeping out of Sol's mouth once in a while even making the zeal pods in strive be literally stuck in unknown tier limbo where he blasted I-No in her God form but you still have the asterisk weakness policy because her powers and regen are in her hand. (This weakness on happy chaos as well as I-No in her God form is just the dumbest weakness to exist because Sol honestly could of one shotted chaos just by aiming to the right instead of the left in the car chase) Also no one mentions this with happy chaos and Asuka ever because it is just major plot hole in Asuka even having precognition to see Sol's bad future but I guess happy chaos is immune to precognition because the plot demanded a forced twist.
 
Asset flip or not, it literally is stated to be the Tome of Origins and Daisuke himself made the game. If you think he's wrong on it then you do you.

Are you talking about when Sol lost the Flame of Corruption? Wasn't that far later in the story like right before God I-No appeared?
 
CharlesZaGreat said:
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How very interesting so a mysterious person "invited" the Marvel characters for a Challenge of Champions where the main villain seems to be The Collector which I assume given the design of the mysterious figure in shadows?

And we see more of awesome designs of the characters.

For Hulk, we have World War Hulk which is pretty cool to see, and my guess this is a mix match of various Marvel stuff into one thing, like we have Shuri as Black Panther instead of T'challa. And what is interesting is that Shuri calls Storm "sister" so I guess in this game Storm is STILL married to T'Challa and maybe hopefully I like to imagine they had a kid together.
 
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