Aragorn vs Morgott

[SheevShezarrine]

Title isn't a typo, we're doing another JRR vs GRR matchup

Aragorn, The King Returned vs Morgott, Last of All Kings

Speed equalized

Aragorn and Morgott are both in 7-A keys, Andúril is restricted to High 7-A

Fight takes place in the Citadel of Minas Tirith, starting at 10 meters apart

Who wins and why?

Aragorn:

Morgott:

Their deceased dads (incon):

 

[Stillwinston]

So right away Morgott has a huge LS advantage, but considering the sheer size between the two Aragorn likely won't try to blade clash here. Morgott's bleeding stuff would be an issue as if Aragorn gets tagged he'll be on the clock before he bleeds out, that said his supernatural willpower should keep him in the fight at least.

 

[Tyranno223]

Few extra tidbits to add to that. Morgott will be cursed to death (in some unknown form and timespan) if he, somehow, grabs hold of Andúril.

Aragorn has EM to offer some hindrance. Nothing as major as the Ainur, but Morgott will feel awe and be unable to look Aragorn in the eyes during a fight. A nice distraction and outright hindrance for the latter.

Andúril's light and holy manip are pretty meh here, but the sword is invulnerable and a one-shot AP wise I believe.

Enhanced senses means Aragorn is aware of his surroundings at all times (with his body being exceptionally capable reacting as part of his blessings), and this is supplemented with his telepathy, foresight, and skill as a warrior.

The Elendilmir might flare up and terrify Morgott with FM at times.

I'll give my (biased) opinion to the match-up later (on a note about possession, it's not done in combat by Morgott. I also plan to add possession resistance as another universal resistance to LoTR).

 

[Chritin]

From the looks of Aragorn's page, I think he does have better average hax than Morgott. However, a lot of what he has is very, meh? Like they are useful, but he doesn't have a crazy win condition. His curse manipulation sounds kind of impressive, but even if his curse does work, we never see it happen in a useful timeframe. This goes for a lot of his hax, which mostly have possible applications, but not confirmed ones.

That being said, I think Morgott wins out in a few categories that could give him the edge. For one, he is a far better combatant than Aragorn, with hundreds to thousands of years of fighting experience and strategizing under his belt. He also has greater skills in acrobatics, and better range with his holy weapon projectiles and omen blood.

Overall, maybe Aragorn has something I'm not considering, but I think Morgott could apply enough pressure that Aragorn simply can't match. I'll give it to Morgott for now.

 

[Tyranno223]

From the looks of Aragorn's page, I think he does have better average hax than Morgott. However, a lot of what he has is very, meh? Like they are useful, but he doesn't have a crazy win condition.

He has a sword that can one shot. If Morgott goes for a single block, his weapon will break and he has a good chance of just going down.

Morgott tends to be a melee fighter and Aragorn is capable of facing dozens of opponents at once. He is very much capable of handling multiple attacks, evemn ranged, especially with enhanced senses. Morgott has attacke that can do a massive quantity of ranged attacks, but they always target the same spots and are certainly avoidable. This is doubly so with telepathy and foresight.

Omen blood also isn't something he starts with, though holy manip he does use in phase 1 too.

Morgott has the experience advantage, Aragorn only getting 87 years around this time compared to thousands. Skill is more debatable, and Aragorn came out of a battlefield without a scratch + never gets injured in the entirety of the Trilogy (in batte).

 

[Tyranno223]

To give my biased opinion, I (shockingly) vote for Aragorn.

He has a High 7-A weapon that gives him a significant advantage in AP and some defensive advantage (especially as it is invulnerable).

Morgott is primarily a melee fighter and he is fighting someone he is in awe of and is unable to look directly in the eyes. This coupled with the Elendilmir potentially igniting to drive Morgott to terror. Morgott will be fighting under constant emotional pressure while being unable to meet the eyes of his opponent.

Ranged attacks are an advantage but are countered by Aragorn's enhanced senses, foresight, and telepathy. Aragorn would know what Morgott is doing before he attacks or defends and has constant awareness of his immediate surroundings.

The massive deluge of Unlimited Bladeworks-Lite is also very avoidable as they always target the same spots, especially by someone who can read Morgott's thoughts.

Aragorn cannot win blade locks due to his poor LS, but his sword will quite literally break anything Morgott has.

Overall, Morgott has acrobatics, range, and superior experience going for him, but Aragorn has far more advantages. Acrobatics can keep the distance, but Morgott isn't a primarily ranged fighter and will close the gap, something deadly against Aragorn here. Range I've covered, and experience is a questionable advantage when Aragorn seems to have superior skill-feats by going unharmed through all 3 Books and going through entire battles unharmed. Morgott might have better skill feats (note, in defeating armies in the intelligence section, that is by leading the army of Leyndell) that I am unaware of, but even then, there's a lot of stuff hindering him and benefitting Aragorn.

Aragorn 7/10 for me. Mid-high diff.

 

[Chritin]

He has a sword that can one shot. If Morgott goes for a single block, his weapon will break and he has a good chance of just going down.

Morgott tends to be a melee fighter and Aragorn is capable of facing dozens of opponents at once. He is very much capable of handling multiple attacks, evemn ranged, especially with enhanced senses. Morgott has attacke that can do a massive quantity of ranged attacks, but they always target the same spots and are certainly avoidable. This is doubly so with telepathy and foresight.

Omen blood also isn't something he starts with, though holy manip he does use in phase 1 too.

Morgott has the experience advantage, Aragorn only getting 87 years around this time compared to thousands. Skill is more debatable, and Aragorn came out of a battlefield without a scratch + never gets injured in the entirety of the Trilogy (in battle).

When you say that his sword can one shot, do you mean AP wise, or does it have some hax that make it a one-shot. Either way, Morgott doesn't really deflect any attacks, so it's a matter of if the sword would insta-kill him instead. Plus, his weapon breaking isn't the biggest deal, since he could summon new weapons at will when needed.

In terms of ranged attacks, I guess that's fair. I think it might be harder to predict Morgott's attacks however since he summons them out of thin air. It's not like he uses projectiles that Aragorn would already see him have on hand, but rather he would have to have some foresight into what Morgott is going to summon and how he is going to use it. Plus, the advantage of range still exist, so I don't think there's any harm in him using them.

Overall, I'm pretty similar with a 6-7/10 vote on Morgott. While I see value in what Aragorn can do on his end, I think Morgott is that much of a better fighter that I think it would counter him and his mild hax.

 

[Tyranno223]

When you say that his sword can one shot, do you mean AP wise, or does it have some hax that make it a one-shot. Either way, Morgott doesn't really deflect any attacks, so it's a matter of if the sword would insta-kill him instead. Plus, his weapon breaking isn't the biggest deal, since he could summon new weapons at will when needed.

AP, Aragorn has a High 7-A weapon here. Morgott gets his curse and blood stuff from his sword. Morgott's sword is literally his cursed blood that's been shaped into this form.

Without it, he only has his holy manip stuff for a notable advantage.

In terms of ranged attacks, I guess that's fair. I think it might be harder to predict Morgott's attacks however since he summons them out of thin air. It's not like he uses projectiles that Aragorn would already see him have on hand, but rather he would have to have some foresight into what Morgott is going to summon and how he is going to use it. Plus, the advantage of range still exist, so I don't think there's any harm in him using them.

Aragorn can read his mind and has foresight, he'll very much know and doesn't need to predict too much.

Morgott has ranged as a significant advantage, but he needs to use range while constantly being emotionally awed by Aragorn's visage and being unable to match his eyes. On occasion, he might even be driven to terror by the Elendilmir.

Overall, I'm pretty similar with a 6-7/10 vote on Morgott. While I see value in what Aragorn can do on his end, I think Morgott is that much of a better fighter that I think it would counter him and his mild hax.

Morgott has experience but that's really meh when skills are more important (Hit gets outmatched by Goku or Jiren in skill, not just power, for example). You have Aragorn out-skilling his Elven brothers-in-law, Elladan and Elrohir who are both also thousands of years old (only he, Imrahil, and Eomer come out of the Pelennor Fields unharmed).

Characters being thousands of years old only has so much value in fiction.

 

[Stillwinston]

Hmmmm I think I'll lean on Aragorn here mostly for his blade coming in clutch here both being invulnerable and its ap, plus again this guy clowns nazguls who are cracked fighters. Assuming bleeding out happens iirc even low tiers in lotr can fight on for periods of time even with arrows in their organs so he'd be able to fight on regardless.

 

[Chritin]

AP, Aragorn has a High 7-A weapon here. Morgott gets his curse and blood stuff from his sword. Morgott's sword is literally his cursed blood that's been shaped into this form.

Without it, he only has his holy manip stuff for a notable advantage.

I feel like it's pretty obvious ALL of his blood isn't contained in the sword. We literally see it spill out of him during the boss fight, and he states that he's stained the thrones with his curse. It's more likely that just a portion of his blood is contained within the sword.

 

[Tyranno223]

I feel like it's pretty obvious ALL of his blood isn't contained in the sword. We literally see it spill out of him during the boss fight, and he states that he's stained the thrones with his curse. It's more likely that just a portion of his blood is contained within the sword.

It's the sole tool through which he does fire, blood, and explosive attacks.

At the very least it has all his blood's potency.

 

[Chritin]

It's the sole tool through which he does fire, blood, and explosive attacks.

At the very least it has all his blood's potency.

It's the direct tool that he uses to commune with the formless mother, but his actual cursed blood is different. Morgott's actual cursed blood is the yellow and black liquid we see explode out of him during his fight.

 

[Tyranno223]

It's the direct tool that he uses to commune with the formless mother, but his actual cursed blood is different. Morgott's actual cursed blood is the yellow and black liquid we see explode out of him during his fight.

He only ever does that with his sword which is quite literally his blood formed into a weapon (I might make a CRT about that Morgott line). He despises his blood and doesn't even use it until phase 2. He won't get there, he'll be dead or crippled in one hit.

 

[Chritin]

He only ever does that with his sword which is quite literally his blood formed into a weapon (I might make a CRT about that Morgott line). He despises his blood and doesn't even use it until phase 2. He won't get there, he'll be dead or crippled in one hit.

Yeah, I just wanted to clarify that his blood (what makes up the sword and his AOE explosion) is different from the formless mother's blood (the bloodflame he uses with his sword) are two separate things.

Honestly, I can still see how Aragorn could win, but no offense im salty and biased (I love my Omen King lol)

 

[Tyranno223]

Yeah, I just wanted to clarify that his blood (what makes up the sword and his AOE explosion) is different from the formless mother's blood (the bloodflame he uses with his sword) are two separate things.

Yeah, ik. I'm a Soulsborne enjoyer through and through. The point I'm making is that all of his non-holy abilities (minus acrobatics and stuff) comes from his cursed blood (by virtue of being an Omen) which has been sealed and formed into his sword (and while bloodflame is seperate, it's likely only present due to his "cursed" nature given Mohg gets his partly from his embracing of his cursed nature).

With that broken, it's likely he can't use the abilities or at the very least has no experience using it. Regardless, Morgott will only use his non-holy arsenal when at half health bar, thus when notably injured. This is unlikely to happen since Andúril will carve through him like butter if it ever lands.

Even if Morgott lands a hit btw, Aragorn downscales to a 400 Megaton character while Morgott is comparable to Radahn at 118 Megatons. Aragorn is 4x more durable and stronger, he can take more hits than Morgott can afford while having lots of advantages to land and avoid hits (whereas Morgott just has acrobatics and experience).

Honestly, I can still see how Aragorn could win, but no offense im salty and biased (I love my Omen King lol)

Fair, I'm just as biased for LotR.

Morgott has win cons (range spam is our of character, but possible, and Morgott's acrobatics can potentially see him keep safe).

However, Aragorn is 4x more durable and strong without Andúril, and Andúril's able to kill High 7-A beings. That plus all the other advantages just sees Morgott become a mid-high to mid diff battle imo.