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Seems like conceptual manipulation to me, not non-physical interaction
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Antispiral VS Mister Mxyzptlk
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Sphere of gods is abstract coz it’s platonic
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Sphere of gods are abstract existence type 1 beings and Mister myxptlk can affect them all and all are Abstract existence type 1 on profile, His existence and others of his kind are incorporeal/non-corperal even on profile and he can fight them easily.
So he should have NPI just forgot to be added when creating the profile.
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I don’t see this feat on his profile
Non-Physical Interaction is seeing and physically touching something that isn’t physical. So if he’s not warping it with like his bare hands, it’s not npi
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Check his AP section, I can probably add NPI if I have time.
I read the page I don't think it's necessarily as long as you can affect them, besides he could fighting Bat-mite in a physical brawl who's also incorporeal/non-corperal.
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Well this isn’t stomp, cuz Antispiral can still paralyze enemies with a glance
So he just keeps beating up a paralyzed Mxyzptlk basically, and the rest is history. That’s his wincon
So he just keeps beating up a paralyzed Mxyzptlk basically, and the rest is history. That’s his wincon
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Does he usually use clones in battle?
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Mxy blitzes before he can do that
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Speed equalized
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What?
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I just saw that
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Nop his first stuff is normal Reality warping thought based (can do anything imaginable) stated on profile, plot manipulation, Toon force(mechanism for him) and breaking the 4th wall.
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Well what does he usually do in battle with his reality warping?
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Many times he arrive in lesser planes everything suddenly messes up looking cartoonish with e.g buildings having mouth,eyes becoming sentient and all that then he transmutes or poof things elsewhere or out of existence, basically reality in general messes up cause of him.
E.g on his profile
Reality Warping (Mister Mxyzptlk's main ability is Reality Warping. He is able to perform a large variety of feats due to this ability. Turned all the signs in the city upside down.[5] Turned Clark's reflection upside down and made his tie act like a snake.[6])
Reality Warping and Magic (Mister Mxyzptlk's main power is reality warping, and his primary source of power is magic - Fifth Dimensional Magic, to be more specific.[22][23] He can warp reality and whenever he leaves, the effects of it vanishes.[24] Erased Metropolis from the map, but once he left, it was back to normal.[25] Warped reality so people won't be able to say names backwards.[26] Granted everyone's wishes.[27] Altered the reality of the entire planet to make everyone's gender the opposite of what they should be, except for Superman's.[28] Warped reality on a planetary scale. Destroyed and recreated every reality in the multiverse.[11]
Reality Warping (Mister Mxyzptlk's main power is to warp reality.[70] He can[71] do[72] almost[73] anything[74] with this[75] ability.[76] His reality warping is said to defy transcend the laws of physics.[77] Unlike his previous incarnations, this version's reality warping[78] does not come from Fifth Dimensional magic.[79] Emperor Joker manipulated the reality in numerous ways with Mister Mxyzptlk's powers. He was able to reshape the world and reality, as well as the minds of everyone. In this new reality, the Justice League has been replaced with villains such as Bizzaro. Jimmy Wilson has been changed into Bizzaro's sidekick, turned Linda into a mindless priestess, and Lois Lane into a tyrannical business tycoon. And even Mister Mxyzptlk was changed by the joker. He was even able to warp heaven and hell into his mad image. Jokerized the Spectre.[80] Was going to unimagine reality out of existence.[81][82][83][84])
E.g on his profile
Reality Warping (Mister Mxyzptlk's main ability is Reality Warping. He is able to perform a large variety of feats due to this ability. Turned all the signs in the city upside down.[5] Turned Clark's reflection upside down and made his tie act like a snake.[6])
Reality Warping and Magic (Mister Mxyzptlk's main power is reality warping, and his primary source of power is magic - Fifth Dimensional Magic, to be more specific.[22][23] He can warp reality and whenever he leaves, the effects of it vanishes.[24] Erased Metropolis from the map, but once he left, it was back to normal.[25] Warped reality so people won't be able to say names backwards.[26] Granted everyone's wishes.[27] Altered the reality of the entire planet to make everyone's gender the opposite of what they should be, except for Superman's.[28] Warped reality on a planetary scale. Destroyed and recreated every reality in the multiverse.[11]
Reality Warping (Mister Mxyzptlk's main power is to warp reality.[70] He can[71] do[72] almost[73] anything[74] with this[75] ability.[76] His reality warping is said to defy transcend the laws of physics.[77] Unlike his previous incarnations, this version's reality warping[78] does not come from Fifth Dimensional magic.[79] Emperor Joker manipulated the reality in numerous ways with Mister Mxyzptlk's powers. He was able to reshape the world and reality, as well as the minds of everyone. In this new reality, the Justice League has been replaced with villains such as Bizzaro. Jimmy Wilson has been changed into Bizzaro's sidekick, turned Linda into a mindless priestess, and Lois Lane into a tyrannical business tycoon. And even Mister Mxyzptlk was changed by the joker. He was even able to warp heaven and hell into his mad image. Jokerized the Spectre.[80] Was going to unimagine reality out of existence.[81][82][83][84])
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Doesn't matter when his opponent has the same dimensionality as him
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Mxy has passive plot manip anyway
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His mere presence was changing the plot of the story without him realising it. After he got his powers, everything returned to normal. It was shown that with his powers, he tries to restrict most of his abilities so he doesn't do too much harm to the universe.
Also his probability Hax was shown to be passive from emperor joker story.
Also his probability Hax was shown to be passive from emperor joker story.
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plot manip is just reality warping, also the probability of him using it would get reduced
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I thing Anti-spiral has passive probability manipulation too
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His abilities are accepted as High 1-C anything the opponent says,thinks, or does can because he made it so apart from manipulating characters who are seen as fiction it's possible he can on the same level since joker did it and he was on the same level with Superman and the rest.
Plus EE works well
All Mister myxptlk hax should work since they are accepted as High 1-C.
FYI- Mister Myxptlk isn't just a character that sees lower realms as fiction and gets his rating he also has feat to back it up by destroying his plane of existence itself.
It's stated on Antispiral profile only works in his Universe.
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Many abilities are subset of Reality warping dosen't matter does Antispiral have resistant to plot manipulation?
Stated on profile to work only in his Universe.
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But it’s true tho
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yes ik, multiple abilities are indeed just subsets of reality warping.
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It’s passive plot manip
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ik, im saying AS cant resist but could counter via passive probabilty manip
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Then good for Myx
You're right it still stated to only exist in his Universe and someone above said the ability dosen't exist even in the novels so yeah it needs to be yeeted away.
An ability that stated to exist only in his Universe
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That works inverse only
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What does he do in a fight against characters, not just what he does
What does it mean to mean nothing to his existence?
Probability Manipulation is also outdated
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Reality warping(Plot Manipulation),Toon force,EE, Deconstruction, transmutation.
People who have no importance to him or mean nothing to him.
It's stated to be only in his Universe specifically in Gurren lagaan so except he can take Mister myxptlk there he ain't doing no probability manipulation shit.
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Well it's not exactly the Gurren Lagann verse the Anti Spiral can literally make the universe. He sustains it. It has different physical laws etc. What's to say he can't BFR?
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It's a lot of headcannons because he never really see how the antispiral maintains their universe. Is it just a higher dimension where they reside and have gained complete control over or did the make the universe themselves? And if we're using Antispiral and not Granzeboma and/or Super Granzeboma it would mean we're already resupposing that the antispirals home world is present within whatever space the battle is ensuing in (regardless if it's cross verse battle) and that it is hidden or at the very least that the antispiral would have access to it. Also, was the probablility altering only done within their (Antispirals) universe or rather in the normal universe where they used probability space to alter it? if it's the former than yes probability manip isnt a thing if it's the latter they should passive probability negate it. Are we all agreeing that Multiverse Labyrinth wouldn't work even tho Mxy hasn't shown mind manipulation resistane on that level only because he'd already know the information imposed on by it?
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Maybe both? Because if that universe existed before Antispiral, it wouldn't need their lifeforce for sustenance. But I don't know entirely, so for now, it would be hard to use this because of the unknown origin of their universe.
No, we're not assuming the home world is present. Antispiral, in-verse, has left the Super Spiral Universe before in his fight against Lordgenome's fleet
I don't have any reason to believe that the "your chances of winning here are absolutely 0" statement would be good enough proof for probability manipulation. And the probability thing (still in their universe) in episode 26 was done by the Ashtanga, not by Antispiral themselves
I'm agreeing that the Multiverse Labyrinth wouldn't work simply because Mxyzptlk doesn't have any alternate version of himself in the multiverse, which is a fundamental to the attack. The consciousness, when experiencing the other possibilities of itself, drifts to the other versions of its body. Antispiral can't just remove the consciousness from the original body without another body for the mind to take over
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Mister Myxptlk has resistance to BFR from beings on his on own level of existence, besides it's not like either has Higher dimensional BFR both can't return from especially that's why I didn't even mention Mister myxptlk BFR.
He dosen't know him so yeah his not important to him to joke around with his life.
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So, then he'd go for EE, RW and PM if I'm not mistaken. So, which of these would he go for first usually?
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