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Anti-Divine muskets spam vs Time muskets spam is meet (Kurumi Tokisaki vs Oda Nobunaga match)

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Anyway,kinda bored,so i made this (since Kurumi trains still alive XD).Alright,lets go folks!!

-Both in character

-Speed equalized

-Nobu RM are allowed

-Place located in Kobe

-Range is 100 meter

-Win via death!!!

Nobunaga FGO
GKurumi


VS


  • Kurumi : 8 (Iapitus,Zenjutsu,Butler,Holy,Viz,Shady,Raven,Rein)
  • Nobu : 0
 
Well,Kurumi have some good time hax via her bullet,and she can make a bunch of her duplicate from any timeline.
 
>Mystery

Oh my....this will need an Nasuverse expert here,well maybe a bit since Kurumi bullet is involved by some mysterious circumates....
 
Mystery = The amount of "supernatural". Just that. It increases with age , magic and connections to something unnatural
 
That's why Servants are Immune to conventional weapons, they don't have "mystery" to harm them.
 
Kurumi's abilities are just less than 30 years old. The connection of her ability are souls and possibly spacequakes. How strong is it?
 
Still some "Mystery", since its something unnatural (Even basic magic has mystery). Kurumi's mystery isn't that high, but still giving Stats advantage to Nobu
 
Most importantly, Spirits aren't considered Divine in any capacity, just superhuman and/or Alien. Oh, yeah. And she doesn't have a Ride. That's Yoshino and Tohka.

Definitely not enough Exploitables for Nobu.

And let's not forget that Nobu is without Master. If Kurumi figures that out and lures Nobu's Big Moves out with her tactics...although Nobu must have a load of Mana if she can use her True NP without a Master supplying her.

I'd say the scales are pretty even.
 
If a mystery can't be an exploit, the problem is in time Hax. Is it in character for her to use Za Warudo immediately?
 
Reinhardthrowhisspear said:
If a mystery can't be an exploit, the problem is in time Hax. Is it in character for her to use Za Warudo immediately?
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Depends on whether she's pissed. Not bloodlusted, pissed.

She once saw a bunch of dudes bullying a cat. She turned them into Swiss cheese. I'm pretty sure if somebody of Nobu's caliber pissed Kurumi off, she'd go for Time Stop immediately.

She's weird and a little sadistic, not stupid. Most people tend to forget that.
 
Well, Nobu is not animal abuser and not really a bad person. She's a kind of a girl you wanna hang out with sometimes. Don't believe Kurumi's pissed because of her unless she dated his man.
 
Well, that's why I said it depends a lot on the scenario and context.

Standard Battle Assumptions except this is in Kobe? If Kurumi got dragged in while she's on a date, chances are she'll be more than a little crabby about it and will want to end it quickly.

If she's in no hurry, she'd have a good chance of figuring out Nobu's need to finish the battle in less than 48 hours, and go into hiding. Nobu cannot hope to win a War of Waiting-Out against Kurumi.

And on the other hand, as I've mentioned before, if Nobu can use her True NP without a Master, she's gotta have a ton of mana in reserve. And in terms of output, do I even need to mention Nobu's AP advantage if she doesn't hold back too much?
 
Nobu doesn't really have anything to get around Kurumi's Time Manipulation. She's very niche in that she's great against those who rely on mounted combat and those with divine origins and a great deal of magical power, but she's not so good against everyone else.

That said, don't Spirits' powers come from "angels"?
 
Reppuzan said:
Nobu doesn't really have anything to get around Kurumi's Time Manipulation. She's very niche in that she's great against those who rely on mounted combat and those with divine origins and a great deal of magical power, but she's not so good against everyone else.
That said, don't Spirits' powers come from "angels"?
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Yeah, but the Angels--and the Spirits themselves--are not considered Divine in any capacity.

You'd need to have a legend that says you're Divine before you can be considered Divine. Kurumi's legend--and she has one due to verse equalization--doesn't really have that. She's considered alien like Altera at best, and superhuman at least. Nothing to exploit there.

And really, I think it'd be better to pit her against a team-up of Yoshino and Tohka. One has a Mount (er...Yoshinon? I forget its name) and would qualify as a Rider, and the other is a Saber with a legendary Wepaon. Class advantage and Mystery.

Finally, and I don't know how many times I've said this, context does matter when they're in character.

If whatever dragged Kurumi here told her, "Win this and you get to go on a date with Shidou"...good luck, Nobu.
 
Nobu is usually quite willing to win in character and loves to spam her Sanzen Sekai, which might do Kurumi in due to the sheer number of Anti-Mystery Rifles (since Kurumi uses time manipulation, that's pretty supernatural and thus effective).

But I'm ultimately leaning towards Kurumi for Time Manipulation.
 
You forget the most important factor: Nobu is without a Master, and she knows that.

Nobu is running on her Independent Action in this fight. Spamming Sanzen Sekai won't do her any favors, especially since Kurumi can easily do this 2-step counter:

1) Summon a bunch of replicas to hide her and distract Nobu (effective, because each of them ARE her);

2) Get the hell outta Dodge.

I will say she has a ton of mana in reserve if she can use her True NP without a Master, but bottom line is, Nobu can't afford to spam any Big Moves. However, any Big Move she has will count, and it's clear Kurumi can't shrug off attacks of that magnitude.

Leaning toward Kurumi, but I think it will be a really hard, really epic fight regardless of who comes out on top.
 
@Zenjutsu

Actually, in all Servant fights we assume that the Servants are given a steady supply of mana to power all of their attacks.

Otherwise Karna would fade in ten seconds.
 
@Repp

Karna is mana abused,due of his epic mana consumption,he need an powerful magus like Illya to backed him.

Anyway,who would you voting?
 
Before I vote, I have to ask, how long does it take for Kurumi to use her time stop?

If Nobu shoots her first, it's gonna hurt.
 
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