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Eh, main guys agreed though this is made a day ago. Let's wait for few hours.
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Another Obligatory Blazblue Upgrade
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Forgot to mention a couple other things.
Amane should have soul hax, healing and regen negation due to having magic, which is stated and shown to be able to do these things.
And Terumi should have High Godly regen negation due to absorbing Hihiirokane, which is stated by himself numerous times to be a weapon built to kill him.
Amane should have soul hax, healing and regen negation due to having magic, which is stated and shown to be able to do these things.
And Terumi should have High Godly regen negation due to absorbing Hihiirokane, which is stated by himself numerous times to be a weapon built to kill him.
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seems legit fra
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Looks good so far.
BlazBlue growing stronger and stronger, damn...
BlazBlue growing stronger and stronger, damn...
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>Mori makes a new Blazblue gameZeldasmash said:
>The cast suddenly becomes 1-A through transcending dimensions and concepts as such
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Should I add this now? We're waiting for three days or so now.
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Might as well. Though save the 7-A tier for later. I wanna see if we can actually get the torifune mountain getting destroyed calced considering it's MUCH larger than like any normal mountain out there.
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Go ahead, most if not all agreed to it already
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Let's put 7-A, at least for now. We can add the tier we get from calc later anyway.
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I just realized that we shouldn't give Hazama and Ragna their Remix Heart key. Ragna lacks the reason to scale to anything and Hazama doesn't seem to get weaker than his other counterparts.
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Also yeah, Tsubaki too since we don't know what her abilities are without Izayoi plus she was 98% damsel in distress.
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You could have just said that she was a jobberShiroyashaGinSan said:
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Editing is done. Just waiting for Wok's response.
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I kinda don't know what any of those mean except 1 and 6 lol. Not points of contention for me. As for the ones that are:
1. Terumi wasn't affected by it/resisted it - No. This isn't the right answer. It's because of his statement in the final chapter that he needed Noel to not get affected by it in the first place. This contradicts what he said.
Him contradicting himself doesn't imply that he'd have high godly though. The one statement is "this won't affect my existence", but if the other statement is that he needs the girl to have it not affect him, they're simply contradictory except both would refer to affecting him at all and as such rather than saying they'd be meaning two different things, it's just a contradictory statement which happens sometimes. It doesn't seem to inherently mean High-Godly.
6. Him capable of surviving Doomsday contradicts why he get the Susano'o Unit - No actually. The reason why he made himself not affected is to defeat Ragna and co and him getting hit by Doomsday was never a stake but the enemies capable of creating new worlds.
Why would that stop being relevant if he "upgrades" from high godly to just tanking it? Why would one stop the enemy from just making a new world?
1. Terumi wasn't affected by it/resisted it - No. This isn't the right answer. It's because of his statement in the final chapter that he needed Noel to not get affected by it in the first place. This contradicts what he said.
Him contradicting himself doesn't imply that he'd have high godly though. The one statement is "this won't affect my existence", but if the other statement is that he needs the girl to have it not affect him, they're simply contradictory except both would refer to affecting him at all and as such rather than saying they'd be meaning two different things, it's just a contradictory statement which happens sometimes. It doesn't seem to inherently mean High-Godly.
6. Him capable of surviving Doomsday contradicts why he get the Susano'o Unit - No actually. The reason why he made himself not affected is to defeat Ragna and co and him getting hit by Doomsday was never a stake but the enemies capable of creating new worlds.
Why would that stop being relevant if he "upgrades" from high godly to just tanking it? Why would one stop the enemy from just making a new world?
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Because in order for him to make the new world, he needed noel in the first place cause she's the only person that can get the True Azure
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Anyways once I get back to a PC I'll try to explain the entire schtick of how he has high Godly to begin with
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I'm pretty sure what Shiro meant to say was that it Contradicts the claim that he can resist Doomsday, which again is further backed up by like almost every other intelligent character in the Blazblue series like Nine, Relius, Kokonoe, Takamagahara, Rachel and Terumi himself that Noel is the only person with the right to be immune to Doomsday and achieve the True Azure for herself.
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Also for the whole regen negation, this should scale to not only Ragna and Hazama, but The Black Beast, Take Mikazuchi, and Requiem considering the Azure is part of the Black Beast, Take Mikazuchi is stated to be identical to the black beast in terms of how it's made, and Requiem due to essentially being Take Mikazuchi, but an observer since both were made by Nine.
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I think High-Godly Regenerationn makes sense. If he was destroyed alongside the Multiverse and Regenerationn, that's High-Godly.
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alright, if no one has anything else to comment. I'll add the High godly stuff soon, then I'll close the thread. And make like 13 more CRTs for Blazblue cause my god there's way too much shit in these extended canons.
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I still do though. Just had school. Main issue is that just because he has a contradictory statement does not imply he has Regenerationn of any sort, and in fact giving himn that degree of regen would only further the other statements. It's just an inconsistency.
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What's the anti-statement again? Doomsday stuff doesn't count, it's just him fearing that he'll go back to square one he's been doing for thousands of years. By process of elimination, he should regenerated it.
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Also why is it an inconsistency? With a potential feat in PFW that is by using logic, should be a regen feat, that isn't contradicted by anything doesn't sound like an inconsistency to me.
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The issue is that the subject of Regenerationn isnt brought up ag all by either of the stagements, he just says it won't affect his existence. Not only would his existence have to be affected fot him to even be regenerating in the first place, but when it's just never addressed i dont think you can really give such abilities as high godly and negstion from what's better considered a plot hole.
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The inconsistency is his statements about himself not Lin up with what's said by others. What I am saying is that tjis is just an inconsistent situation where someone os wrong, as opposed to that being applicable to high godly.
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Again, that statement is from Doomsday in CF, it's PFW we're talking about. And what other statement did that ever contradicted? I played CF story twice and I never saw anything like that. He fears that he goes back to square one, and thus needed Noel to open the gate and to not get affected by Doomsday which turns everything to zero and start from scratch. Bringing up regen to have regen isn't a good point, when you see a person gets erased then you saw the same person existing a chapter later, it's regen.
Plot hole? Plot hole happens when a person's action contradicts what the plot is, him regenerating doesn't contradict anything, hell, him not regenerating is more contradictory.
Plot hole? Plot hole happens when a person's action contradicts what the plot is, him regenerating doesn't contradict anything, hell, him not regenerating is more contradictory.
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@Wokistan how is it a plot hole? There's no instance whatsoever on Terumi being unaffected by Doomsday in the first place cause he emphasized it himself that Noel being absorbed into him is what makes Doomsday not work on him anymore. And again, this isn't the only time doomsday happened. Doomsday happened WAY BEFORE the events of BlazBlue even started to begin with. AKA The Prime Field War. Literally after the end of that war, Amaterasu caused doomsday and terumi himself mentioned how he was there the entire time.
And to be clear, this was also when Noel didn't even exist in the first place. So there was no one that could remotely tank Doomsday aside from the gods themselves back then.
And to be clear, this was also when Noel didn't even exist in the first place. So there was no one that could remotely tank Doomsday aside from the gods themselves back then.
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On thinking about this more, if his regen's a really important and prominent thing about him in verse I guess you could get high godly off that if him just taking the damage is totally antithetical to everything else.
I have no idea what's going on with High Godly maybe being revised though.
I have no idea what's going on with High Godly maybe being revised though.
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If the regen thread goes the super revised route then he might just get really good mid godly. If not and we keep the dimensional erasure level then he'll likely stay high Godly. That is unless we find proof that Time Killer can erase at a conceptual level
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