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An Idea That Can Be Inside Humans vs An Idea That Can Be Inside Electronics

I've thought about this match for a long time, and I don't see 3002 being able to infect or take over the 2111 instances.

Although they could be eliminated should 3002 infect the Foundation/The World at large and destroy the former, as 2111's existence relies on the Foundation's existence.
 
3002 resists anti-memetics, so pretty sure that 2111 wouldn't be able to wipe her out from a host (and I assume, would be able to infect people affected by 2111).

3002 also seems to have generally better survivability, since even a single human affected can spread it to others easily and quickly, while 2111 kinda dies without the Foundation.
 
I assume that 2111 can survive even if the target's mind is completely erased and remade? If so, then both of them can infect each other's host and survive attempts at being erased. But like I said, 3002 seems to have greater survivability and greater infection rate (since 3002 can use any information to transmit, while 2111 seems to need to produce infohazards)
 
well, technically infohazards can count as "any information" in certain forms, which 2111 can definitely use
 
Can he do it as efficiently as 3002 though? Since she can decide that anything that her host says, writes or think is now an infohazard and lets her transmit herself, at will.
 
Well, 2111 deathhaxes the moment they interact with anything; due to them being infohazards themselves.

They can also surround the databases they live in with deathhax symbols, although like what Saikou said 3002 can win through killing the Foundation.
 
i mean, theres nothing stopping 2111 from basically kidnapping a couple guys and keeping them alive and away from 3002

but yeah
 
I mean, given that 3002 can control any human, can't she just nuke said humans (or the database itself) from afar? Or am I missing something?

Also this feels more like a Plague Inc. match than a VS Debate at this point.
 
3002 needs to spread via information, so 2111 could do several things to stop it but i'm pretty sure 3002 could do the same to 2111
 
Information is very easy to spread though. Broad an infohazard over national TV or something and you have most of a country infected. Like I said it's mind plague vs mind plague.
 
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