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This is a rare occurrence for me, but I also vote Amy.
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When you said AP gap, you meant in Amy's favor, right? Because Amy has the higher value and seems to upscale from it.How likely it is for Amy to use paralysis? Android 18 do starts with an AP gap and has infinite stamina, but Amy has AD to help her out
Android 18 also upscales from her value so I guess it's not clearWhen you said AP gap, you meant in Amy's favor, right? Because Amy has the higher value and seems to upscale from it.
Judging from her fight with Vegeta, while she obviously can fly, she also opts for regular cqc on the ground so this may not come into play immediatelyAs for how likely it is, it's not something she opens with. But she would certainly resort to it after realizing 18 can fly and spam attacks from far away. It'd be her best move to get in close and actually do damage as mentioned earlier.
That's what I figured. Though in cqc, I think Amy has a clear advantage.Android 18 also upscales from her value so I guess it's not clear
Judging from her fight with Vegeta, while she obviously can fly, she also opts for regular cqc on the ground so this may not come into play immediately
Can 18 see 4 kilometers away? Amy's SI is just pointing in a direction to make them look. That said, if Amy needs to, she can easily close the gap.Hold on a minute, can Amy use SI on someone from 4km away?
Yes, why would't she? I myself can see for 4km away, she being a Cyborg with enchanched senses should be better than me.Can 18 see 4 kilometers away?
I don't think most people can see 4 kilometers clearly though. Can you see how many fingers someone is holding up from 4 kilometers away?Yes, why would't she? I myself can see for 4km away, she being a Cyborg with enchanched senses should be better than me.
Pretty much. Though she could also just close the gap with her 54x speed amp. Not that I think Amy will need to. I don't recall 18's opening move being range spam.Oh ok, but 18 can see from 4km away, so If Amy just like "hey look up" 18 will like "what" and Amy close the distance to attack 18 and stop the spamming of energy blast.
She can see Cell from a greater distance than that whilst he was blowing up an entire archipelago. Amy could but 18 would carpet bomb the entire park.Can 18 see 4 kilometers away? Amy's SI is just pointing in a direction to make them look. That said, if Amy needs to, she can easily close the gap.
Maybe more skilled in traditional martial arts. But overall, I'd say Amy has the advantage. She has a hammer, homing attack, can summon objects out of nowhere to crush 18, SI to make her look up and then wail on her, etc.Yeah, she start with CqC (which i believe she would be the better one against Amy) but If Amy start to annoy her with her, she would change strategy and fly up and start spamming.
I mean, after making her look up, she can kinda just use her amps to easily close the gap.She can see Cell from a greater distance than that whilst he was blowing up an entire archipelago. Amy could but 18 would carpet bomb the entire park.
Before or After the carpet bombing?she can kinda just use her amps to easily close the gap.
Either tbh. She could point up, and while she's distracted, amp herself and close the distance. But if 18 already started the carpet bombing and then looked up, Amy has the speed and acrobatics to avoid every blast and navigate the city to get in close to Android 18.Before or After the carpet bombing?
I risked the part to not argue, and you do It anywayMaybe more skilled in traditional martial arts. But overall, I'd say Amy has the advantage.
Yeah, true.She has a hammer,
They are in close combat, why homing attack would matter? She can hit 18 already good enough. And If she try to do that several times, 18 would be able to reconized the pattern of the attack, and put a barrier to block It.homing attack
18 can protect herself with energy barrier, but yeah true., can summon objects out of nowhere to crush 18
Techinically, 18 can just attack Any before she does It, If Amy does several times., SI to make her look up and then wail on her, etc.
Sonic character's use homing attack 99% of the time in close range. It's hardly ever from super far (Though they can if they want). Homing attack is also a blitzing amp. Lets Sonic blitz characters equal to him in combat speed. So it'd just kinda let Amy barrage her with a shit ton of attacks really quickly. She'd also be able to shatter the barrier pretty quickly given that is the case.They are in close combat, why homing attack would matter? She can hit 18 already good enough. And If she try to do that several times, 18 would be able to reconized the pattern of the attack, and put a barrier to block It.
I imagine the weigh she summons would shatter the shield. It can crush characters comparable to her after all (Who survive thanks to elasticity). You could argue she can also spawn the 10 ton weight inside the barrier.18 can protect herself with energy barrier, but yeah true.
I mean, it's only a gesture. It's one of the quickest actions she can do. By the time a punch or ki blast reaches Amy, she'll prolly have already pointed. She can use it multiple times against her opponents in Fighters after all (Tho I don't think Amy would spam it in-character).Techinically, 18 can just attack Any before she does It, If Amy does several times.
She would be like "Ok she doing It again" and attack her to stop It.
You forgotten these things explode and reach android 18 anyways even when exploding off of ground zero?Either tbh. She could point up, and while she's distracted, amp herself and close the distance. But if 18 already started the carpet bombing and then looked up, Amy has the speed and acrobatics to avoid every blast and navigate the city to get in close to Android 18.
Your sentence here is a bit confusing, but I assume you're brining up the AoE of ki blasts? Not hard to outrun this with a 54x speed amp and acrobatics. It also helps that Amy's travel speed is like infinitely faster than Android 18's.You forgotten these things explode and reach android 18 anyways even when exploding off of ground zero?
If she's homing at 18 and 18's own ki blast explodes, even at ground zero, it would encompass 18 anyways and by default Amy as collateral damage.Your sentence here is a bit confusing, but I assume you're brining up the AoE of ki blasts? Not hard to outrun this with a 54x speed amp and acrobatics. It also helps that Amy's travel speed is like infinitely faster than Android 18's.
Ohhh, I get what you're saying. Tho DB character's don't often resort to blowing themselves up with their own attacks, lol. Given the AP advantage to Amy tho, it ain't gonna do severe damage. Then Amy would proceed to wallop her. Worst case scenario, she just paralyzes 18 for half a minute.If she's homing at 18 and 18's own ki blast explodes, even at ground zero, it would encompass 18 anyways and by default Amy as collateral damage.
Fair enoughOhhh, I get what you're saying. Tho DB character's don't often resort to blowing themselves up with their own attacks, lol. Given the AP advantage to Amy tho, it ain't gonna do severe damage. Then Amy would proceed to wallop her. Worst case scenario, she just paralyzes 18 for half a minute.
I know, I saying more like, because they are in close combat, 18 would not give her the time to do the attack. 18 would be constantly attacking her.Sonic character's use homing attack 99% of the time in close range. It's hardly ever from super far (Though they can if they want).
Homing attack is also a blitzing amp.
I mean, DB character can react to characters faster than them, so she can probally defend herself.Lets Sonic blitz characters equal to him in combat speed.
The pattern i am talking about is more like, when they jump and stay in place for a seconds, and then homing in to attack, when 18 notices this she can prepare herself.So it'd just kinda let Amy barrage her with a shit ton of attacks really quickly. She'd also be able to shatter the barrier pretty quickly given that is the case.
True...?I imagine the weigh she summons would shatter the shield. It can crush characters comparable to her after all (Who survive thanks to elasticity). You could argue she can also spawn the 10 ton weight inside the barrier.
She also have to say It right? Does just pointing is enough or she have to say things too?I mean, it's only a gesture. It's one of the quickest actions she can do. By the time a punch or ki blast reaches Amy, she'll prolly have already pointed.
Sonic character's find the time to use it in close combat against character's equal to them. Don't know how Amy wouldn't find an opportunity to use it.I know, I saying more like, because they are in close combat, 18 would not give her the time to do the attack. 18 would be constantly attacking her.
They can react to faster character's, but not usually ones who can blitz them. Otherwise the two would be comparable (With exceptions like Gohan fighting Dyspo since they had to strongly limit his movements for Gohan to stand a chance).I mean, DB character can react to characters faster than them, so she can probally defend herself.
For a few seconds? That's a gameplay mechanic. Sonic can use homing attack instantly after jumping. Heck, if you go by the comics, it doesn't even look like they need to jumpThe pattern i am talking about is more like, when they jump and stay in place for a seconds, and then homing in to attack, when 18 notices this she can prepare herself.
Not sure if she has to say anything. But saying a word or two as she points up doesn't really take much longer than just pointing up.She also have to say It right? Does just pointing is enough or she have to say things too?
Amy can't use the homing attack I'm pretty sure, though I may be wrongSonic character's use homing attack 99% of the time in close range. It's hardly ever from super far (Though they can if they want). Homing attack is also a blitzing amp. Lets Sonic blitz characters equal to him in combat speed. So it'd just kinda let Amy barrage her with a shit ton of attacks really quickly. She'd also be able to shatter the barrier pretty quickly given that is the case.
Ah ok. My mistake thenHeroes.