Kairi vs Super Amy Rose

[Eseseso]

Both in 2-B, so Super Amy Rose vs Up to KH3D Kairi

Speed Equalized

Location: Green Hill Zone

SBA

Damsel Scrappy:

Hammer Bro:

Incon:

 

[Fezzih_007]

Ok, Kairi can't deal with Amy Invunarebility, and Amy can hit Kairi trought all time and space, and also speed blitz her with the 348x amp, i think not sure if thats the exact number.

I don't see Kairi wincons here.

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

348x amp

Close, 346x

 

[Bobsican]

What's the reasoning for the invulnerability beyond "it just works", again? I recall invulnerability without a sound mechanical explanation behind are just deemed glorified durabiltiy for our purposes.

Anyways, Spin Dashing isn't really in character for Amy, it's often quite limited at best compared to other Sonic characters, and I don't need to explain that move is further limited by the fact she'd have to be grounded to use it to begin with, meaning that it isn't that practical against an opponent that can be constantly airbone or teleport out of a rather linear path.

 

[Fezzih_007]

What's the reasoning for the invulnerability beyond "it just works", again?

Invulnerability (Super forms are stated by multiple different sources to be invincible, indestructible[28] and invulnerable, and are merely unaffected by conventional attacks from a bunch of different enemies, such as Perfect Chaos, Time Eater, Ultimate Gemerl and the Great Eggman Robo)

Besides heart Manipulation, Kairi don't have much to counter that.

 

[omegabronic]

What's the reasoning for the invulnerability beyond "it just works", again? I recall invulnerability without a sound mechanical explanation behind are just deemed glorified durabiltiy for our purposes.

Emotional empowerement, as in, the emotional positivr wish of the one using it makes the damage go away

Anyways, Spin Dashing isn't really in character for Amy, it's often quite limited at best compared to other Sonic characters

It is as in character as any char tbh

, and I don't need to explain that move is further limited by the fact she'd have to be grounded to use it to begin with, meaning that it isn't that practical against an opponent that can be constantly airbone or teleport out of a rather linear path.

She has thr super sonic boost, even faster than the spin dash and can be done in the air

 

[JJSliderman]

Has she ever done the boost

 

[omegabronic]

Has she ever done the boost

basic chaos energy techinique that every super form has access to

 

[Bobsican]

Emotional empowerement, as in, the emotional positivr wish of the one using it makes the damage go away

That sounds like straight up Statistics Amplification, so uh... yeah, it's not true invulnerability for our purposes but just high durability.

However, how high Amy scales in 2-B again?

It is as in character as any char tbh

Reason?

She has thr super sonic boost, even faster than the spin dash and can be done in the air

Oh okay.

 

[omegabronic]

That sounds like straight up Statistics Amplification, so uh... yeah, it's not true invulnerability for our purposes but just high durability.

emeralds turn wishes and thoughts into reality, so interpret this as they literally "wishing" the damage away if it phrases better for you

However, how high Amy scales in 2-B again?

ad infinitum*ad infinitum, basically as high as you can be in 2-B from what i saw

Reason?

it is the main attack movie in basically every game she is in, like, you can argue that she uses hammer more, but spin dash is still very much in character, of course, she won't use it as a first like sonic mostly does tho

Oh okay.

 

[Bobsican]

emeralds turn wishes and thoughts into reality, so interpret this as they literally "wishing" the damage away if it phrases better for you


ad infinitum*ad infinitum, basically as high as you can be in 2-B from what i saw


it is the main attack movie in basically every game she is in, like, you can argue that she uses hammer more, but spin dash is still very much in character, of course, she won't use it as a first like sonic mostly does tho

Oh, Reality Warping then, that can work.

Lmao, Kairi can't do much here.

However, this is just a incon as the stupid smurf fate manip of hers also goes to herself.

 

[omegabronic]

Oh, Reality Warping then, that can work.

more or less yeah

Lmao, Kairi can't do much here.

However, this is just a incon as the stupid smurf fate manip of hers also goes to herself.

damn, let me guess "fate stops her from dying no matter what", did i got it right?

 

[Eseseso]

Would changing it to Xion make it any fairer or not an incon match?

 

[Bobsican]

damn, let me guess "fate stops her from dying no matter what", did i got it right?

Yes

Would changing it to Xion make it any fairer or not an incon match?

She has NEP in 2-B, don't

 

[Eseseso]

She has NEP in 2-B, don't

Would that shield her from the "getting hit across all of time" hax?

 

[omegabronic]

well if neither can kill eachother due to fate manip protecting one and invul + higher stats protecting the other, i guess i will vote incon, for now at least

 

[Eseseso]

Incon FRA

 

[Eseseso]

Lmao, Kairi can't do much here.

No hax from her "Heart" power?

ad infinitum*ad infinitum, basically as high as you can be in 2-B from what i saw

How?

 

[Bobsican]

Kairi is one of those characters that can't directly apply hax, for stuff like conceptual EE or anything else she has to inflict significant damage.

 

[omegabronic]

No hax from her "Heart" power?


How?

maginary world makes universal space times, aka dream worlds, for every dream of any living being that can dream in every dimension, there are "endless" dimensions for every possibility as stated by tails in the tailstube, i could argue that the living beings in a single planet is enough for "endless" dreams, so with an endless multiverse with endless living beings makes maginary world exponentially bigger than the normal ad infinitum multiverse, sonic's 2-Bs scale to all of the cosmology

 

[Bobsican]

Would that shield her from the "getting hit across all of time" hax?

She was born with NEP to begin with, so uh...

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

If none can really win here then Incon FRA

 

[Bobsican]

Uh... wouldn't it be a mismatch? Generally for a match to be indexable both characters require some win condition to the other.

 

[omegabronic]

Uh... wouldn't it be a mismatch? Generally for a match to be indexable both characters require some win condition to the other.

nah, mathes where none of them can win are addable, see no further than the incon king himself

 

[Bobsican]

Oh, fine, I had some misconception on my mind when I bothered looking further.

 

[AStrangeverse]

maginary world makes universal space times, aka dream worlds, for every dream of any living being that can dream in every dimension, there are "endless" dimensions for every possibility as stated by tails in the tailstube, i could argue that the living beings in a single planet is enough for "endless" dreams, so with an endless multiverse with endless living beings makes maginary world exponentially bigger than the normal ad infinitum multiverse, sonic's 2-Bs scale to all of the cosmology

that just looks like countless 2-B

 

[omegabronic]

that just looks like countless 2-B

It is more countless than baseline countless

 

[Axl233]

Worst kh girl stalemates amy fra

 

[Fezzih_007]

However, this is just a incon as the stupid smurf fate manip of hers also goes to herself.

I don't see on her profile.

 

[AStrangeverse]

It is more countless than baseline countless

yeah, I recall Sonic being in hundreds of times above baseline countless, not whatever you said

otherwise they'd be rated higher than pokemon

 

[omegabronic]

yeah, I recall Sonic being in hundreds of times above baseline countless

tailstube gave a good upgrade to the cosmology

otherwise they'd be rated higher than pokemon

yeah i guess they would

 

[JJSliderman]

yeah, I recall Sonic being in hundreds of times above baseline countless, not whatever you said

otherwise they'd be rated higher than pokemon

Sonic 2-B is countless unis*however many non-Maginaryworld universes there are, although since Solaris is destroying MW across all of time, it’s potentially really high.

 

[Bobsican]

I don't see on her profile.

The page is just outdated (that already was acepted in a past CRT and the page is just pending having that added), give me a minute

 

[omegabronic]

Sonic 2-B is countless unis*however many non-Maginaryworld universes there are, although since Solaris is destroying MW across all of time, it’s potentially really high.

Which is also countless thanks to tailstube