Dzhindzholia said:
But you're completely ignoring the fact that she was getting her Powers and Statistics Boosted by Audience Approval/Audience Support during the Elimination Chamber Festival which made her way stronger than what she was in Episode 1
You said it again,like it is literally your only argument.Not gonna argue with you anymore.
Disprove/Debunk My Arguments please then since you seem to know a lot about the verse apparently and think that a character can only be Low 2-C in stats if he/she fights another low 2-C. But here let me post any proof with timestamps:-
In Episode 1
from 15:55 to 17:35 Altair and Selesia could fight 1v1 and match each other's strength without either of them getting stomped. Meteora interferes and Altair retreats as she feels the pressure of the 2v1 disadvantage she has.
In Episode 6
from 18:16 to 18:50 we clearly see Selesia surviving an attack from Aliceteria which was
calcd to be Small Town+ Level and shows that it's her dura. Altair directly scales to this as she fought with her in Episode 1
In Episode 5
from 16:27 to 16:40 Meteora explains that Altair currently isn't powerful enough to affect the real world and if she tries, she will get thrown out.
In Episode 10
from 20:15 to 20:50 Altair states she isn't powerful enough to affect the Universe/Real World. In the very same Episode
from 18:00 to 20:00 we can see that due to the Audience's emotion and sympathy with the story, Selesia was amped up to the point where she could overpower Aliceteria.
In Episode 12
from 8:10 and onwards they confirm that it was THE EMOTION OF THE AUDIENCE THAT AMPED SELESIA AND THEY WERE GOING TO USE IT TO THEIR ADVANTAGE BY CREATING A BIRDCAGE AND STOP/DESTROY ALTAIR.
In Episode 14
from 3:10 to 8:30 Kikuchihara explains that they will be using the emotions of the Audience to power up the Creations against Altair within the Birdcage
In Episode 15
from 11:55 to 13:10 Meteora creates her station which would allow her to send the Audience Acceptance and boost the Characters within the Birdcage
In Episode 16,
from 12:20 to onwards Meteora states that they all got Power Boosts from the Revisions and that they will capture Altair within the Birdcage and destroy her by using the Audience Acceptance to boost all the Creations
In Episode 17
from 3:40 onwards both Selesia and Rui attack Altair but to no avail as their attacks and explosions were blocked by her swords. Even Tanks and Missiles are Blocked by her Swords and she is unaffected by the Explosions.
From 15:15 to 16:10 ALTAIR CONFIRMS THAT SHE DOESN'T HAVE THE POWER REQUIRED TO DESTROY OR ESCAPE THE BIRDCAGE AND WANTS MORE ACCEPTANCE FROM THE AUDIENCE WHICH WOULD BOOST HER POWERS.
In Episode 18
from 15:50 to 16:20, Meteora uses the Audience Acceptance and Boosts Aliceteria's Gauntlet so that she can use more power. Just after that
from 16:24 to 16:50 ALTAIR CATCHES THE SWORD ATTACK FROM SELESIA'S MECHA. Mind you that this was a revised powered up version of Selesia in her Mecha who should be Logically above Altair as her weakened Base form in Episode 1 had a tie with her. This confirms that Altair too was getting boosted by the Audience's Emotions and Approval which increased her Stats and Powers to the point she could accomplish such a feat.
In Episode 19
from 3:30 to 3:52 Aliceteria attacks Altair but couldn't get past her shield. From 6:43 to 7:12 ALTAIR WAS SHOWN TO PHYSICALLY FIGHT ALICETERIA AND COULD BLOCK HER ATTACKS AND EVEN OVERPOWER HER.
From 10:40 to 11:10 Aliceteria uses her Gauntlet's full power to get a massive amp that allowed her to break through Altair's shield and Impale her. Altair was unaffected as it was later revealed that she changed cause and effect so the damage was taken by Aliceteria.
From 15:10 to 16:15 everyone attacks Altair but she simply dodges their attacks and even blocks them.
In Episode 20
from 3:50 to 4:42 it was revealed that ALTAIR HIJACKED THE PLOT OF THE BIRDCAGE WHICH ALLOWED HER TO GAIN MORE AUDIENCE ACCEPTANCE THAT BOOSTED HER POWERS.
From 5:10 to 7:10 Meteora states that Sirius was brought into the Play using the Acceptance of the Audience and it was the Audience's Acceptance that sustained her Existence. I should also mention that
from 6:30 to 6:40 Altair was shown to tank a direct hit from Sirius, a more powerful ripoff version of Altair.
From 9:14 to 9:24 Altair and Sirius Fight with Sirius having the upper hand easily.
From 14:00 to 15:15 Altair states that it was the Audience's Emotion, Feelings, and Beliefs that shaped her and her powers including her existence and and the way she is at now is all because of their emotions.
From 16:20 to 18:05 Altair states that she now has the power to Destroy the Birdcage which was a result of the Audience's emotion and Hikayu even confirms this.
in Episode 21
from 10:40 to 12:20 it was pointed out that Altair's powers are due to the fact that she has no established Canonicity and as such, her powers and abilities are whatever people believe in.
From 15:50 to 16:50 it was stated by Altair that due to the Audience's Acceptance and Emotions, Altair's powers were elevated to the point where she can create/destroy/recreate Universes for Setsuna.
So TL;DR :
> Showed how Altair in Ep 1 was more or less on the Same Level physically as Selesia.
> Showed how she lacked powers at that Time to even affect the Universe/Real World
> Showed how Audience acceptance and emotions can powerup Characters beyond their previous stats and powers
> Showed how Altair was able to Casually Stomp everyone in the Elimination Chamber Festival where everyone had powerups and increased stats due to prep time and revision which proves that this version of Altair was way more powerful than Episode 1 Altair
> Showed how Episode 17 Altair stated that she can't escape or destroy the Birdcage as she lacked powers but in Episode 20 she gained enough power to do that.
> Showed instances where Altair displayed Physical Stats when she fought Selesia in Episode 1, Stomp Selesia in her Mecha, Overpower Aliceteria Physically, Unaffected by Tank Shells and Missiles explosion
> Showed the reason for this was the Audience Acceptance which was used to give powerups to the characters, invoke new characters and sustain their existence with it, and even boost Altair's power consistently to the point no one could touch her, let alone even hurt her
> Showed how Audience Acceptance and Emotions were the main reason why she got elevated to Low 2-C
In Conclusion, Not only was Audience Acceptance boosting the powers of Altair but it was also boosting her physical stats as shown in series and her Low 2-C version should logically have Low 2-C physical stats too due to how the verse treats Audience Acceptance as a mechanism that boosts the overall powers of a Character
