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Alien X vs Dimentio
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Because it worked against Galactic Gladiator who laughs at Dimentio's durability and he can also survive in a void.
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@Gyro
False. The Pure Hearts stopped his invunerability. We never see if his Invunerability would apply to Pure Hearts Mario's attacks. His invunerability has, fundamentally, only been shown against a High 4-C.
False. The Pure Hearts stopped his invunerability. We never see if his Invunerability would apply to Pure Hearts Mario's attacks. His invunerability has, fundamentally, only been shown against a High 4-C.
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>His invunerability has, fundamentally, only been shown against a High 4-C.
His invulnerability is obviously gonna be higher then his standard durability dude, even then he's invulnerable to even the void.
His invulnerability is obviously gonna be higher then his standard durability dude, even then he's invulnerable to even the void.
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The first phase of the Super Dimentio fight had Mario, Peach and Bowser without the Pure Hearts. So yes, as PIS as that is.
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Galactic Gladiator got invulnerability as well and the AP gap is humungous.
I also think they only need to be on the same dimensional level for the black hole to work since it most likely ignores durability.
I also think they only need to be on the same dimensional level for the black hole to work since it most likely ignores durability.
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Alien X's Portal Creation/Black Hole Creation comes from a bunch of clones rapidly circling around an opponent. What stops Dimentio from duplicating himself countless of times to confuse X?
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Portal creation comes from Starbeard going to Ben prime's universe from the Forge of Creation IIRC, miniature black hole to prevent getting continuously exploded by Dimentio was my argument and after than he can use duplication to let it grow bigger, to the size of a galaxy and suck in all Dimentio clones, also Ben doesn't have the same weakness as Galactic Gladiator since he is the only one in control and can easily take down armies with his other aliens if he has to so it won't confuse him.
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Dimentio can just easily BFR the clones before any of that even happens.
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Bold of you to assume a genius can confuse a Nigh-Omniscient.
Also BFR is out of character, or at the very least out of character as Super Dimentio (Once again, he didn't use it)
Honestly, when you see a Mario character, just assume literally 90% of the powers and abilities are out of character.
Also BFR is out of character, or at the very least out of character as Super Dimentio (Once again, he didn't use it)
Honestly, when you see a Mario character, just assume literally 90% of the powers and abilities are out of character.
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And then they all duplicate in the universe he sent them to, create a portal behind him, nothing personal kiddo gg.
And like I said before if the fight takes too long then Ben turns Dimentio's life force into noodles and I still have to see a wincon for Dimentio.
And like I said before if the fight takes too long then Ben turns Dimentio's life force into noodles and I still have to see a wincon for Dimentio.
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Nigh-Omniscience only seems to be related to X's knowledge of his own verse, and not his combat intelligence.
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True but Ben has enough combat experience under his belt to deal with Dimentio.
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Alien X can basically think in a time stop, if that makes sense. Ben and Alien X's two other personalities were able to have a fairly long conversation when outside of Alien X's mind virtually no time passed. I doubt that this dosn't apply to current Alien X. So yeah, confusing Alien X isn't an option.
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@Smashor this would contradict Galactic Gladiator not being able to respond to the black hole tho, maybe it's just really fast conversations because MFTL+ looks like instantaneous to FTL characters.
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Dimentio has tricked numerous intelligent opponents. Just because you can think fast doesn't protect you from getting tricked.
And what I meant with the whole confusing X point was that if X duplicated himself, Dimentio could do the same and he wouldn't know which version to create a portal around. Even a slight hesitation would be useful for Dimentio.
Alien X has also never shown to be able to escape from being trapped in the 2nd dimension or in another dimension.
And what I meant with the whole confusing X point was that if X duplicated himself, Dimentio could do the same and he wouldn't know which version to create a portal around. Even a slight hesitation would be useful for Dimentio.
Alien X has also never shown to be able to escape from being trapped in the 2nd dimension or in another dimension.
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Dimentio FRA
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Ben uses snarky remarks to get into CQC without any clones and punches him
If he creates a galaxy sized black hole thingy then that issue is no longer, granted they'd have to go to space first. Fair enough on the second dimension (I think unless it's the same method of getting out as any other dimension) unless time reverse counters it? Portal creation comes from traveling to and from the Forge of Creation which no-one but Celestialsapiens, Paradox and people with the Map Of Infinity can access, so Alien X creating a portal to the Forge is probably more difficult than getting out of the second dimension if you can just exit via portals.
Btw does Dimentio create a void around him that keeps getting bigger?
If he creates a galaxy sized black hole thingy then that issue is no longer, granted they'd have to go to space first. Fair enough on the second dimension (I think unless it's the same method of getting out as any other dimension) unless time reverse counters it? Portal creation comes from traveling to and from the Forge of Creation which no-one but Celestialsapiens, Paradox and people with the Map Of Infinity can access, so Alien X creating a portal to the Forge is probably more difficult than getting out of the second dimension if you can just exit via portals.
Btw does Dimentio create a void around him that keeps getting bigger?
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Dimentio's literal main feat is creating a giant massive void that continously gets bgger every second till it engulfs all of reality. Not around him exactly (but he could do it around him, Bleck technically did offscreen).
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alright im voted Dimentio Fra.
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So it would work against Alien X then even tho he survived standing in a universe sized void? What's the difference between Dimentio's attack and Xeno Goku blowing up the multiverse for instance? Also it was mentioned in the Alien X upgrade thread that he could probably survive the Chrono Navigator destroying all of reality which would be > what Dimentio can do. Also if it's a slow moving void of existence erasure, chances are Bellicus and Serena will pull out the big guns like information manipulation.
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A universe sized void aint a multiversal void.
It's only a slow void if used by someone not optimal, Luigi changes it from slow to multiversal.
It's only a slow void if used by someone not optimal, Luigi changes it from slow to multiversal.
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So basically the fight starts and X gets erased or?
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idk, im not even here to debate the match, im just here to clarify what dimentio can do.
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Ah ok, thanks for the input then.
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X can stand in a void, I think. He was able to just casually stand there without even flinching when a universe was destroyed on a Low 2-C level.
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That doesn't really compare to the Void's power.
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So X's only options when the void is in play are BFR to the Forge Of Creation (which is OOC and only works if Dimentio leaves some space to let X push him in/telekinesis possibly) and info manipulation which is OOC and only comes into play in a prolonged battle. So now the only question remains, how likely does Dimentio immediately create a void around him? (oh and can he die by his own void if he gets pushed in or something?)
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Dimentio's literal purpose for living is to create a giga **** you void to destroy everything.
Everything in the game and even thousands of years prior to the game where all done with that intention, in fact it's implied he wrote the ancient prophency about the chaos heart in the first place. If he needs to create a void in this match, itd likely be like how bleck did it, aka annihilate everything within the vincinity and the entire universe in one fell swoop while it infinitely expands nonstop consuming universes nonstop, difference being Bleck was imperfect and couldnt harness it's full power)
Dimention even upon death used all his life force to make sure the void kept on going so his enemis would die with him.
Basically, Dimentio would likely do so as not only is it his best option but he lives and exists to do so. If he notices that there his void in the sky is gone, he'd fix that right away.
Everything in the game and even thousands of years prior to the game where all done with that intention, in fact it's implied he wrote the ancient prophency about the chaos heart in the first place. If he needs to create a void in this match, itd likely be like how bleck did it, aka annihilate everything within the vincinity and the entire universe in one fell swoop while it infinitely expands nonstop consuming universes nonstop, difference being Bleck was imperfect and couldnt harness it's full power)
Dimention even upon death used all his life force to make sure the void kept on going so his enemis would die with him.
Basically, Dimentio would likely do so as not only is it his best option but he lives and exists to do so. If he notices that there his void in the sky is gone, he'd fix that right away.
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Dimentio is completely unaffected by the Void.
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Maybe you could have started with that
yeah Dimentio wins/stomps depending on the new stomp rules, unless X suddenly scales to the Chrono Navigator's abilities but even then...
yeah Dimentio wins/stomps depending on the new stomp rules, unless X suddenly scales to the Chrono Navigator's abilities but even then...
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idk if he stomps, or even wins. Info manip and reality warping are kinda busted and idk if dimentio's invulnerability protects against those. But that's for you all to decide.
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Voting Inconclusive. Alien X can win through sheer AP and Info Manip, but Info Manip is out of character, which grants Dimentio the oppurtunity to use his win cons (BFR, Mind Control, Void Manip). Not to mention that several of Dimentio's abilities (Invisibility, Duplication, Teleportation) are good for helping him dodge X's physical attacks.
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Mind control doesn't work because pocket dimension, agree with everything else that you've said (well at least if 2nd dimension BFR is OP). If he immediately uses void manipulation then I'd vote for Dimentio (if it's not a stomp), if it's just an option he'll get to then I vote inconclusive as well since X would still have some time to punch him and he also has duplication and teleportation.
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Inconclusive FRA
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