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Alien X vs Beastheads



Bloodlusted character.
Speed Equalised.

Votes...
Alien X:-
Chen:-
 
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what can alien X do here? his EE is useless against low-godly regen and he cant deal with passive fear hax
afiak AP wise BH is way above baseline
 
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I haven't yet stated starting distance......maybe a certain range may make the match more fairer and interesting??

Any suggestions?
 
I don't think range is going to change this match that much.

Alien X wincon is EE which is ooc for him, so i almost sure this match is a stomp in BH favor.
 
Not a stomp probably, will elaborate later. Just check the note regarding Alien X’s minds on his profile for now.
okay so fear hax is out of range but still passive deathhax, soul hax and way superior AP while alien X doesnt have anything that could harm the BH because of it resisting pretty much everything he has and it has superior regen
 
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to be fair to the Bleach people I won’t argue Alien X’s soul is out of range of the Beastheads unless someone wants me to (CRT about it but it kinda died).

Out of curiosity how does the death hax work and how big is the AP gap, enough to overcome AX’s regen?

Also Alien X’s EE was stated to be able to erase everything, which would include Anodites such as Gwen who are beings made of pure mana, the substance of souls.
 
to be fair to the Bleach people I won’t argue Alien X’s soul is out of range of the Beastheads unless someone wants me to (CRT about it but it kinda died).

Out of curiosity how does the death hax work and how big is the AP gap, enough to overcome AX’s regen?

Also Alien X’s EE was stated to be able to erase everything, which would include Anodites such as Gwen who are beings made of pure mana, the substance of souls.
the beast heads was basically able to induce death on every living thing (except demons) that surrounds it passively
it isnt on the profile for some reason but it is accepted and is used as justifcation for demons resisting death manip

as for AP i think it goes like this

Chen(BH) > casual Dante >> Void Mundus >> Sparda > Despair embodied > baseline low 2-C

technically DMC should be 2-C now but thats a discussion for another day
 
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It is good enough to bypass AX’s regen? Since he has good enough regen to counter biological death.

Maybe we can make a deal, I let you argue death hax if you give me the chance to argue soul hax unconventional resistance via range (it’s also in this limbo on whether it being accepted or not is vague)?
 
the death hax is accepted as it is currently being used for justification for resistance

also AFAIK regen doesnt help against death inducement
 
It is good enough to bypass AX’s regen? Since he has good enough regen to counter biological death.

Maybe we can make a deal, I let you argue death hax if you give me the chance to argue soul hax unconventional resistance via range (it’s also in this limbo on whether it being accepted or not is vague)?
Soul hax of DMC only comes into effect when physical or/and aural contact is made so as long as AX maintains his distance he is safe....
 
I mean I would just argue his souls are inside his pocket dimension due to his minds/personalities being inside and because Ben falls over there and wanted to use the Omnitrix inside of it. Implying it’s his physical body in there.
 
What stops Chen from just nuking AX body with a tap? The AP gap is pretty big here
Regen
Death hax was added to BH page now.
“The method varies, however; some users may halt vital biological processes or attack the soul directly. Others affect their target on a more abstract level, simply causing them to die for no discernible reason, though death manipulation comes in many other forms, with some functioning on a conceptual scale

From what I’ve seen there’ no proof for it to be beyond killing biological processes, something Alien X lacks. Unless we go with “causing them to die for no discernible reason” but it seems like a bit of a stretch that it’s abstract like that without any further proof, unless someone can back this up.
 
Regen

“The method varies, however; some users may halt vital biological processes or attack the soul directly. Others affect their target on a more abstract level, simply causing them to die for no discernible reason, though death manipulation comes in many other forms, with some functioning on a conceptual scale

From what I’ve seen there’ no proof for it to be beyond killing biological processes, something Alien X lacks. Unless we go with “causing them to die for no discernible reason” but it seems like a bit of a stretch that it’s abstract like that without any further proof, unless someone can back this up.
Eehh...from what I have read its the life force snuffing out kind.....and with how demonic energy always directly affects souls it will end up working on soul lvl I guess....though I'll probably need another DMC expert's confirmation....
 
Well life-force is the substance of souls in Ben 10, so I could argue his life-force is outside of range like his souls. Despite what his page says in his weaknesses but that’s a WoG by an art director aka someone who has no influence over canon.
 
If you let me argue his soul and life-force is outside of range, I guess EE which works on souls/anodites. Unless someone wants to argue the dozen other passives work.
 
4D soul hax has become new wincon for every DMC match now.........so I understand your pain.

Well not all the passives from High Tier Demom Physiology apply to BeastHeads...he has some like Gravity, Madness, Fear, Law hax which is passive but not others like space-time and mind and illusion hax....
 
As for the range of the passives....thats limited too.....unlike Argosax or Void Mundus who have universal(soon will become 2C) range.....
Though what would be the range of paasives for BH would be planetary I guess since it affect the whole world.
 
Actually... Alien X has this. His Immortality means that he won't die from the beast heads death presence and their equally matched in the strength department.
 
Hell even if the Beast Heads could affect Alien X's mind(s)... his being a temporal singularity would mean that the heads couldn't see his future or even affect it.
 
Actually... Alien X has this. His Immortality means that he won't die from the beast heads death presence and their equally matched in the strength department.
going from profiles alone, beastheads is way above alien x Here
the beast heads was basically able to induce death on every living thing (except demons) that surrounds it passively
it isnt on the profile for some reason but it is accepted and is used as justifcation for demons resisting death manip

as for AP i think it goes like this

Chen(BH) > casual Dante >> Void Mundus >> Sparda > Despair embodied > baseline low 2-C

technically DMC should be 2-C now but thats a discussion for another day
 
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