I like how you fellas totally forgot how AP and temperature work on this site BFG is not enough to damage mercer much less outright kill as its AP is
173.027 tons while mercer is rated at above
480.4 well over 2 times as powerful as the bfg so that is not going to be doing squat against mercer and thats not even including armor and muscle mass multipliers after which he could quite literally walk through the bfg
@NikHelton don't even bring up gameplay things into it cuse I can go on and bring up how the slayer gets gibed by the bfg prototypes prior to us getting the bfg itself or how he gets negged by molten metal in the foundry even though the suit he wears tanked a laser quite a bit hotter than the metal in lore. We use scaling to know that both mercer and doomslayer are way above the thermaberic blasts or the bfg in their respective verses with mercer by end game being beyond the mother who can tank quite a bit more than a thermaberic missile and by scaling being beyond the goliaths who can tank thermaberic blasts in game and lore alike and doomslayer being able to rip apart demons who can tank the complete bfg with little difficulty thus making both of them massively beyond either weapon and not to mention that the cals we use for their AP show us that they are in fact so far above both weapons in universe that they wouldn't even notice if either got hit. TL;DR don't use gameplay anti feats they go both ways mate
@ShadowWhoWalks nice of you to use the super gore nest without mentioning that its a single of its kind in the game and us taking it out was a massive blow to the invasion of hell not to mention that it works pretty much identically to the hives of P1 and 2 acting as a spawning pit with the massive exception that the gore nest simply allowed easier passage from hell to earth and not to mention that in lore it didn't just come about on its own
"The Super Gore Nest was created through a ritual conducted by
UAC cultists under the command of
Deag Ranak, which dramatically accelerated the development of a
Hellgrowth within the reactor chamber of a UAC facility in central Europe. Its location is the initial origin point of the invasion of Earth, and the Hell portal sustained by the gore nest is capable of allowing millions of demons to pass through the void.
In an attempt to destroy the nest, four US Battle Mech divisions, the Con-EUR Long Range Naval Artillery Barrage Fleet, 27 US Night Bird Apaches, three NATO Shock Troop battalions, two CON-EUR Rapid Response Levi-Tank divisions, and 18,000 coalition Special Forces units sacrificed themselves; however, they failed in their effort."
so nice of you to misslead the actual facts and context of the actual thing not to mention that even size wise most of the nests in Prototype blow the gore nest out of the water
with the hives being underground and puncturing the ground and quite literally enveloping dozens of city blocks while the super gore nest which came about from extra involvement of the hell priests and even the khan mayker only being about 3/4 city blocks in range.
so to put that little Transmutation and Matter Manipulation debate to end the super gore nest is one of a kind and has not been replecated in game outside of hell ever again be it in the dlcs or in 2016 while prototype has hives spring up time and time again without any extra involvement with the hives created by powerful infected such as Greene being massively durable and massive in size
"you are basically claiming that the Blacklight virus no longer needs to consume biological materials for sustenance and growth, and can replicate by consuming metal, concrete, and other inorganic materials. This is quite the claim that is not explicitly mentioned anywhere."
no one is calming that the black light doesn't require biological matter it does, what the claim is, is that is capable of breaking down and transforming inorganic matter into its whole which it is and has shown to be doing since P1 with hives manifesting themselves on regular buildings capable of creating flesh sacks on said building and clearly breaking down the buildings themselves as seen with large amounts of ruble and metal being flung out each times the sacks spawn a powerful infected as well as being able to break down Kevlar armor like no one’s business with mercer and Heller being able to absorb the super soldiers who are covered head to toe with Kevlar.
"That is example of a
small amount of metal; clearly not sufficient to establish he can absorb metallic objects as large as the Praetor Suit in the same way he absorbs flesh and bones. This does not answer my request nor bring something new (I already pointed out he can replicate metal)."
Again they are capable of breaking down people in full body armor not just small bits here and there but full suits covering the whole body
"Also he is not necessarily transforming the virus into electronic equipment; he can simply store the electronic equipment inside his body, and then whip it out to complete the disguise. James Heller takes out his cell phone from his 'pocket' to participate in video calls and play recorded videos; just like he can store the cell phone inside him with no need to presume he is creating cell phones from scratch, he can store his disguise's radio receiver and LED electronic components inside him."
that would be the case if we did not clearly see in game play that he breaks down the whole target and everything on its the virus rips the body apart on a molecular scale that includes the armor the electronics the whole bunch hell that is the only explanation as too how said equipment doesn't turn to shrapnel each time mercer or heller get hit by a massive explosion cuse most electronics would get fried from a direct missile strike which happens consistently in prototype and the radios that are on their damned chests the main point of impact function normally even after all of the explosions and bullets and massive shock waves the endure.
"
The Supreme Hunter remained incapacitated longer than a couple of moments, and finishing Alex off in that state would be easy. There is no evidence that the Supreme Hunter is able to reform more than a hand within a short time directly after his defeat.
James Heller gained the ability to generate a large amount of biomass after absorbing Alex, but Alex was weakened and incapacitated to the point that he could no longer regenerate. So Doom Slayer doesn't need to get through the maximum size of the biomass; he only needs to damage Alex to the point that he no longer has energy to regenerate."
yeah except that majority of the weapons we use in 2016 wouldn't even be able to deal any damage to alex in the slightest other then the doomslayers fits themselves
and again the heller vs mercer fight is massive PIS mercer had all the biomass that heller used in the end it wasn't some special ability that he gained from killing mercer but just how much of a store of biomass mercer had in himself which makes the whole ripping his hands of so massively questionable that it isn't even funny when we know for a FACT that mercer is capable of regenerating his body within moments after consuming a crow which means a crows worth of biomass is enough for mercer to speed up his regeneration to such an extent now imagine what a city worth of biomass would be able to do? So please stop using that fight it’s so full of plot holes and just general disregard of pre-established lore elements that it isn't even funny.
"Then the standard superheated plasma rifle is more than enough to do the job, and the BFG-9000 is a ridiculous overkill. Naturally occurring plasma is above 10000 degrees. Argent Energy such as the ones fired from BFG-9000 vastly exceeds that:"
ah yes a 9-A weapon will be enough to bring down a 8-A sure thing mate whatever
"Argent Energy is stable with a temperature of 2000000 K, and the BFG-9000 fires supercharged and superheated Argent Energy.
Meanwhile, in gameplay the thermobaric tank can one-shot with max health upgrades"
so can a bfg prototype one shot slayer in game does it make sense lore wise? No it does not stop trying to use gameplay anti feats when they clearly contradict lore
