Aldebaran vs Sasaki Kojirou (Re Zero vs Record of Ragnarök)

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

Men who can turn a 1 in a billion chance into victory. Who can pave a path against insurmountable odds. "Losers" and "weaklings" that can knock down the doors of the "strongest".

Sasaki Kojirou vs Aldebaran

Speed equalized.

Both are at their mountain level key.

 

[Fezzih_007]

Why Sasaki have Genius Inteligence in the Abilities, but Is Gifted in Inteligence.

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

Profile mistake, ig. Didn't even notice that myself.

Genius is probably more accurate based on how advanced his analytical prediction is.

 

[azontr]

Monkey

 

[Zabazab]

Domain Expansion gives a coinflip to Al at the very start, and even if he loses that he can turn a one-in-a-trillion chance at winning into reality. What's Sasaki's move?

 

[azontr]

First move is to request that his opponent grant him the honor of seeing their technique. Given his opponent is evidently a swordsman, he would do the same here. He would use that time to analyze his opponent and initiate Thousand Image Defense, which immediately starts by analyzing at least 18 different possible moves, without having actually fought yet.

 

[Huesito88]

First move is to request that his opponent grant him the honor of seeing their technique. Given his opponent is evidently a swordsman, he would do the same here. He would use that time to analyze his opponent and initiate Thousand Image Defense, which immediately starts by analyzing at least 18 different possible moves, without having actually fought yet.

Isn't the 18 moves pre-enlightenment?

 

[azontr]

Isn't the 18 moves pre-englightment?

What

 

[Huesito88]

What

Before Sasaki evolved how strong his AP was

 

[azontr]

He can probably predict more than 18 moves at the start of a fight now, yes, but we wouldn't know how many steps ahead he can read since he hasn't officially fought since his match with Poseidon.

 

[Huesito88]

He can probably predict more than 18 moves at the start of a fight now, yes, but we wouldn't know how many steps ahead he can read since he hasn't officially fought since his match with Poseidon.

Well according to the profile we'll assume strongest versions and since FTL is in his speed section and his AP (not talking about attack potency, I'm talking his analytical prediction) is tied on how we rate his speed he'll be assumed to have it.

 

[azontr]

I have absolutely 0 idea why you bring this up or what bearing it has on the result of the match, but okay.

 

[Huesito88]

I have absolutely 0 idea why you bring this up or what bearing it has on the result of the match, but okay.

The bearing is that it won't be 18 moves it'd be post enlightenment level AP

 

[azontr]

Uh huh.

Anyways, I don't know much about how this guys powers work other than that it let's him retry fights. I don't see how this would help against Kojiro whose always one step ahead— knowing what he'll do doesn't really matter since he'd just continuously move in new ways in accordance with his opponent's new strategies.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Questionable whether Al should/will be 7-A.

But the amount of bs that Al's authority lets him get away with, has gotten to the point where some people are even seriously suggesting his looping will let him handle Reinhard of all people...

This is gonna somehow turn into another skill slop, as Al was able to beat Garfiel despite his shounen protag power ups like getting stronger and more skilled in battle.

 

[Zabazab]

Al's Authority lets him set a space where time loops upon his death yes. It lets him pull of things that shouldn't be possible even in a pre-arranged match.

This lets him completely thrash people stronger faster, and more skilled than him without even taking a hit.

Spoiler: Al fights

Garfiel is stronger:

The backfist of the roaring Garfiel was narrowly dodged by his opponent, who had crouched just in time. The power of the strike was reduced to him merely grazing the enemy with the underside of his little finger, causing Garfiel to grit his teeth.

He kept missing. No matter how many punches he threw, he could not land a clean hit with a single one.

As for his opponent――,

Aldebaran: [Dona.]

A brief incantation, and the sensation of magic interfering with the world, made Garfiel’s hair stand on end as his body leaned forward.

In the subsequent moment, a block of stone that had appeared airborne struck Garfiel’s face with a noticeable impact, as if to meet the angle at which he had tilted his head.

A pained groan escaped his mouth, and his lip was split. In terms of power, it was a weak blow. For Garfiel, who had fought against high-class warriors in the Empire, who had even clashed with a Dragon, it was far from enough to incapacitate him, let alone cause a significant injury.

However, he did not believe that this was the result of his opponent holding back.

Aldebaran: [Huff, huff…]

Breathing heavily, Al, who had cast the spell that had struck Garfiel’s face, remained on-guard without a hint of relaxation.

His apparent exhaustion was not a ruse to induce Garfiel’s carelessness; he was genuinely out of breath. It was only a matter of course. According to Garfiel’s assessment, the difference in ability between them was so significant that Al would be incapacitated by even a single powerful blow.

Perhaps, it would not even require a powerful blow.

If even one of Garfiel’s barrage of punches were to land, it would terminate the fight. In the span of a single breath, he could unleash dozens of such finishing blows.

Needless to say, facing such a situation would drain both one’s mental and physical strength.

Even though that ought to go without saying――,

Garfiel: [It just, won’t hit… Hk!]

Bewildered, Garfiel was unable to make heads or tails of what was occurring to him.

Al’s movements and counterattacks revealed a significant gap in skill when compared to Garfiel. This was not a matter of arrogance, but rather because, as a warrior, Garfiel was far superior to Al.

And yet, attacks that should have landed, and evasions that should have been successful, were failing completely.

Garfiel’s attacks continued to miss, while Al’s attacks continued to land.

While they lacked the power necessary to critically injure Garfiel, the bothersome attacks were sufficient to halt his movement and to prevent follow-up strikes――,

Al deals with Garfiel (Garfiel pov):

Hearing Ezzo’s voice warning of danger, Garfiel felt something closing in straight towards his nose―― he opened his mouth wide and caught it with his fangs.

A full-force punch aimed to crush Garfiel’s face right after he had been blinded, meant to bait him in. But that was not enough to break Garfiel’s resolve to do whatever it took.

Garfiel: [I’ll fhix if lay’r, dhumbassh!]

With the sensation of his fangs sinking into the fist and stopping it, Garfiel tightened his jaw, promising to heal Al after stripping him of his ability to do battle.

It was a cold-blooded decision, but Al was one-armed. He fought with only his right arm, and were he to be robbed of the function of his one remaining arm, he would no longer be able to fight. So, Garfiel intended to rip it apart from the wrist to the elbow――,

Garfiel: [――Ah?]

As he increased his bite force, he realized something.

The fist Garfiel caught in his bite was shaped like Al’s left hand, which he should not have.

Garfiel: [――Bwaagh!?]

In the next instant, Al’s fist in Garfiel’s mouth swelled up violently, shattering his jawbone under the pressure and sending shards of his upper and lower canines flying through the air.

Furthermore, the fingers that had extended into his mouth jabbed deep into Garfiel’s throat, triggering an unbearable gag reflex―a response triggered when fingers are thrust down one’s throat, and paralyzing him. ――Then, a calculated, hard, and heavy blow struck Garfiel’s jaw diagonally.

Garfiel: [Kah… Kh!]

Blinded and thrown into blackness, Garfiel felt the sensation of his whole world flipping upside down. Having been struck on the jaw, his brain rattled, and his sense of balance vanished, making it impossible to stay on his feet as his knees buckled.

Being utterly overwhelmed so one-sidedly, Garfiel belatedly realized something.

Ezzo’s desperate cry had been a deliberate warning, anticipating that if Garfiel were to take Al’s attack head-on, this would be the result.

In other words, this all had been as per Al’s bait――.

Aldebaran: [Remember when I said recklessness’s the toughest thing to deal with? I lied. Those who don’t think ain’t a threat to me.]

Al deals with Garfiel (Ezzo pov):

Subsequently, catching sight of the attack that followed that blinding, Ezzo had screamed.

Al had employed magic to reconstruct his missing arm out of earth, and had thrown a punch with it.

Garfiel had opened his mouth wide, attempting to bite down upon the arm of earth, but that would only end poorly. Ezzo’s grim premonition proved true, for the earthen arm violently exploded within Garfiel’s mouth.

Garfiel: [――BWAAGHHK!?]

The expanding arm destroyed the inside of Garfiel’s mouth, and a spray of fangs and blood followed.

To add to that, having encased his right hand in a gauntlet of stone, Al delivered a powerful sideways punch to the jaw of the stupefied Garfiel.

Garfiel collapsed to his knees. ――His successive movements were efficient, extremely so.

Ezzo: [Something of this sort should not be possible, even in pre-arranged sparring…!]

As Al brilliantly halted Garfiel’s advance with a barrage of blows, with strikes that would have been impossible to execute even if the sequence had been part of a martial arts demonstration, Ezzo’s vigilance continued to rise to its zenith.

 

[azontr]

Before I even get into skill slop or whatever *****, is it possible that Kojiro can just leave the domain?

 

[Zabazab]

Before I even get into skill slop or whatever *****, is it possible that Kojiro can just leave the domain?

If he turned around and ran he may be able to? The Domain is like MAXIMUM a hundred metres.

But anyway Al has no skillslop. He sucks, he's just a cheater that brute-forces solutions at the cost of putting his mind to the grindstone.

 

[azontr]

Cool.

Based on my understanding, Al's ability to annihilate people far beyond his standing is based on his knowing of their every move through his loops. But as I said, this should be countered by Kojiro's every move constantly developing in accordance with Al's strategies, so if he loops back expecting Kojiro to do one thing and acts accordingly, Kojiro's strategy will simply shift in tandem, forcing another loop.

 

[Zabazab]

The initial coinflip where it's possible Kojiro is the one who remembers loops still exists and is basically an immediate gg.

If Kojiro would play reactionary every time, can he really account for everything? Al has as many attempts as he needs, and a very high number of tricks he can abuse, particularly his creative earth magic.

 

[azontr]

In terms of physical combat, I would say it's no exaggeration that he can basically account for literally everything. In terms of manipulating the environment, that can definitely trip him up initially, but given his ability to scan his environment as well, he would eventually be able to respond to that as well. Keyword "eventually", since if Al starts throwing chunks of earth at him, yeah, he's not gonna respond flawlessly off rip.