Ainz Ooal Gown vs Regulus Corneas

[SatellaTheWoE]

I genuinely do not get why Ainz wouldn't also want to kill what to him seem to be allies of his enemy. He has quite literally no reason to not reduce their numbers. It is only advantageous to himself to deplete his enemy of allies and have less people to deal with.

Yeah and he did be dead before he got anywhere with that

 

[Antarctic_Icecream]

Ooc for him, he wont take the chances

He would, depending on his mentality.

I like to see it going in two main ways:

1. If Ainz sees that there are no benefits to fighting and killing Regulus, he either just leaves or uses his social influencing on Regulus to make him leave.

2. If Ainz sees that there are benefits in fighting and killing Regulus (either because he wants to measure his strange power, or thinks he has something valuable, or he’s fighting on behalf on someone or something he cares about such as Keno or the guild) he will go and kill Regulus.

Despite his paranoia, he went on a covert operation against a lich he thought was equal to himself in Vampire Princess.

He was doubting and suspecting so much but still chose to do everything in his power to kill him.

So I don’t see what’s stopping him if he thinks there’s value in killing Regulus.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Yeah and he did be dead before he got anywhere with that

Why? Ainz is a skeleton, he can be ****** up all over and still not die. Ainz is not afraid spam teleportation, and Perfect Unknowable, which Regulus has nothing on his page that lets him see past that kind of invis

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

He would, depending on his mentality.

I like to see it going in two main ways:

1. If Ainz sees that there are no benefits to fighting and killing Regulus, he either just leaves or uses his social influencing on Regulus to make him leave.

2. If Ainz sees that there are benefits in fighting and killing Regulus (either because he wants to measure his strange power, or thinks he has something valuable, or he’s fighting on behalf on someone or something he cares about such as Keno or the guild) he will go and kill Regulus.

Despite his paranoia, he went on a covert operation against a lich he thought was equal to himself in Vampire Princess.

He was doubting and suspecting so much but still chose to do everything in his power to kill him.

So I don’t see what’s stopping him if he thinks there’s value in killing Regulus.

He doesnt have any outside motivation in a 1v1 battle though right

 

[Antarctic_Icecream]

Seeing how they arent doing anything at all he would assume that they are just his followers or something, pretty sure OL doesnt have a mechanic where the followers amp their king but even then after killing or 2 he would realize it didnt do anything to Regulus aside from making him mad. This would then prompt him to strike Ainz.

He wouldn’t kill them immediately, he’d capture them and use domination magic to gain any info on potential weaknesses on Regulus and his history.

Then he would view their memories at key points to get as much information as possible.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Why? Ainz is a skeleton, he can be ****** up all over and still not die. Ainz is not afraid spam teleportation, and Perfect Unknowable, which Regulus has nothing on his page that lets him see past that kind of invis

How is he gonna deal with the danmaku or Regulus breathing in his general direction being an attack

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

He wouldn’t kill them immediately, he’d capture them and use domination magic to gain any info on potential weaknesses on Regulus and his history.

Then he would view their memories at key points to get as much information as possible.

Makes sense but that doesnt really help him much becuz Subaru gave Emilia some amount of prior knowledge and they had no idea about his weakness at all so its kind of useless

 

[DaReaperMan]

Seeing how they arent doing anything at all he would assume that they are just his followers or something, pretty sure OL doesnt have a mechanic where the followers amp their king but even then after killing or 2 he would realize it didnt do anything to Regulus aside from making him mad. This would then prompt him to strike Ainz.

He kills followers and other such allies. He's gonna kill the wives.

No i am not. He is simply that paranoid, he assumes his oppoonent has the ability to counter him in every way and moves on that assumption.

And yet he's still going to throw in expendable summons to test the enemy's power. He's not so paranoid he's a genuine moron.

How is he gonna deal with the danmaku or Regulus breathing in his general direction is an attack

superior range.

 

[Apeironaxim]

How is he gonna deal with the danmaku or Regulus breathing in his general direction is an attack

How is Regulus gonna hit him when he doesn't know where he is due to invis, or when he's too far away via teleport spamming?

 

[Antarctic_Icecream]

He doesnt have any outside motivation in a 1v1 battle though right

He does, I named some of them. He’s had 1v1’s with plenty of people for various reasons. And even one where he thought he might have a chance of losing such as with Gazef.

 

[Apeironaxim]

SBA also has the characters be willing and wanting to win. They can't just give up or leave because they're not interested or see no value in it

State of mind: In character, but will attempt to win the battle. Characters will not give up of their own accord. That means a character that is uninterested or sees no chance of winning won't simply leave and characters wouldn't simply become friends with each other. This doesn't prevent a character being made to give up, because the other character manipulates them via things like, for example, mind control, fear inducement, psychological tricks or superhuman charisma.
Each character will view their opponents as enemies, who they have to assume wish to cause them severe harm such that losing could have any range of dire consequences. The characters will assume their opponents have not been forced into battle. They are assumed to have decided from free will to fight and are not excused by a just cause, difficult times or otherwise exonerating circumstances. Furthermore, the situation is assumed one where the opponents are not protected by social norms or consequences, such as being a civilian protected by law.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Btw would the Gospel interpet ainz as being a major danger and give any directions on where Ainz could be

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

He does, I named some of them. He’s had 1v1’s with plenty of people for various reasons. And even one where he thought he might have a chance of losing such as with Gazef.

No i meant sending horses to Regulus

 

[Antarctic_Icecream]

Makes sense but that doesnt really help him much becuz Subaru gave Emilia some amount of prior knowledge and they had no idea about his weakness at all so its kind of useless

He would view some of Regulus’ history with his wives. He’d know enough to where he can see how valuable they are to him. He can kill all of them and then use a summon such as the messenger undead summon he has to offer resurrecting them.

Or he could just use a delayed spell to attack all of them at once and level the entire place.

And then send a summon with that offer.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

He kills followers and other such allies. He's gonna kill the wives.
And yet he's still going to throw in expendable summons to test the enemy's power. He's not so paranoid he's a genuine moron.

superior range.

He doesnt have prior knowledge about his breaths being dangerous and Regus range is multiple kilometers since he hit a tower on the other side of the city

 

[Apeironaxim]

Btw would the Gospel interpet ainz as being a major danger and give any directions on where Ainz could be

1) Ainz has resistance to info analysis, esp, and clairvoyance
2) Regulus's P&A does not mention any such abilities, so if you want to argue them you'd need to make a crt to add them

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

He would view some of Regulus’ history with his wives. He’d know enough to where he can see how valuable they are to him. He can kill all of them and then use a summon such as the messenger undead summon he has to offer resurrecting them.

Or he could just use a delayed spell to attack all of them at once and level the entire place.

And then send a summon with that offer.

1. We dont have any knowledge of Regulus ever revealing his power in any form or way or even showing any care for them. So we cant dedece that Ainz would be able to figure it out either, he comes out as a narcissistic guy who just wannts what he wants
2. Seems plausible but once again Regulus surviving it would put him on his guard
3. Stop witn the horses.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

1) Ainz has resistance to info analysis, esp, and clairvoyance
2) Regulus's P&A does not mention any such abilities, so if you want to argue them you'd need to make a crt to add them

Its more of a prophetic book that tells him generally what to do, its mentioned in his standard equipment although i have no idea if it would work against ainz overtime.

 

[Antarctic_Icecream]

He doesnt have prior knowledge about his breaths being dangerous and Regus range is multiple kilometers since he hit a tower on the other side of the city

He has a history from YGG to using his summons to prove potential traps, and see all that they can see with undead slave sight.

Ainz might also be able to view any dangerous areas from his breath given that he can see through invisibility.

Also, he doesn’t seem to lay breath-traps outside of prolonged combat.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Its more of a prophetic book that tells him generally what to do, its mentioned in his standard equipment although i have no idea if it would work against ainz overtime.

Even if it's mentioned in the equipment, there is nothing in his P&A, so it's a non-factor until it would be added

 

[DaReaperMan]

He doesnt have prior knowledge about his breaths being dangerous and Regus range is multiple kilometers since he hit a tower on the other side of the city

Ainz has SEVERAL kilometers of range. And summons he can use to test shit. He uses summons a lot.

 

[Antarctic_Icecream]

1. We dont have any knowledge of Regulus ever revealing his power in any form or way or even showing any care for them. So we cant dedece that Ainz would be able to figure it out either, he comes out as a narcissistic guy who just wannts what he wants
2. Seems plausible but once again Regulus surviving it would put him on his guard
3. Stop witn the horses.

He’s killed most of his wives and their families, and they fear him greatly.

So he has indeed revealed his power to them, from many different angles.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

He’s killed most of his wives and their families, and they fear him greatly.

So he has indeed revealed his power to them, from many different angles.

Yeah but he hasn't shown any weaknesses, just that he is a ****** as well. Ainz would also still assume that regu was holding back since his fights are always one sided

 

[Apeironaxim]

Ainz has SEVERAL kilometers of range. And summons he can use to test shit. He uses summons a lot.

tbf he doesn't technically use summons a lot against comparable foes, but that's due to circumstances and context such as Shalltear just making that strategy useless. The few times he has been able to however, such as against Cure Elim and PDL, he 100% employed the use of summons to attack, tank for him, and provide distractions.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Ainz has SEVERAL kilometers of range. And summons he can use to test shit. He uses summons a lot.

Thats his prefered method of fighting but they all get one shotted here so they dont do much, also Regulus can go FTL ramming in Ainzs direction

 

[Apeironaxim]

Thats his prefered method of fighting but they all get one shotted here so they dont do much, also Regulus can go FTL ramming in Ainzs direction

In the direction he wouldnt know? Since Ainz can instantly teleport? And Regulus doesn't have ESP to sense where he is, and even if he did Ainz resists it? I don't see how that works out.

 

[Antarctic_Icecream]

Yeah but he hasn't shown any weaknesses, just that he is a ****** as well. Ainz would also still assume that regu was holding back since his fights are always one sided

He’ll get a greater understanding of how his abilities work and the importance Regulus places on his wives. That’s all valuable knowledge.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Ainz might also be able to view any dangerous areas from his breath given that he can see through invisibility.

Those traps arent invis tho, they are simply time stopped air. I highly douubt it would qualify as an attack tbh

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

He’ll get a greater understanding of how his abilities work and the importance Regulus places on his wives. That’s all valuable knowledge.

The importance my guy wasnt mentioned, also Regu keeps his wives at the castle in all of his fights upto Subaru vs Regulus and that was due to the marriage
Basically i doubt Ainz will figure anything out regarding his weakness and his general power might make some amount of sense

 

[Antarctic_Icecream]

Those traps arent invis tho, they are simply time stopped air. I highly douubt it would qualify as an attack tbh

All of his attacks are time-stopped. Only he himself isn’t invisible.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

In the direction he wouldnt know? Since Ainz can instantly teleport? And Regulus doesn't have ESP to sense where he is, and even if he did Ainz resists it? I don't see how that works out.

Why would Ainz start the fight by teleporting away, he did most likely go for grasp heart

 

[Antarctic_Icecream]

The importance my guy wasnt mentioned, also Regu keeps his wives at the castle in all of his fights upto Subaru vs Regulus and that was due to the marriage

It doesn’t have to be mentioned, it only needs to be shown.

Just from seeing his history with his wives would he realize their value to him.

Which gives him more cards to play against him.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Thats his prefered method of fighting but they all get one shotted here so they dont do much, also Regulus can go FTL ramming in Ainzs direction

Not all of them, also some of them, like Soul Eaters, are AoE passive dura neg.

Why would Ainz start the fight by teleporting away, he did most likely go for grasp heart

He starts by time stopping generally, and seeing his shit NOT WORK would spook him into ******* off and throwing summons to test Regulus' abilities

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

All of his attacks are time-stopped. Only he himself isn’t invisible.

I am confused what you mean by this. What i am saying is that all his attacks are time stopped but they are in the end just simple objects like air so i wonder if they count as actual attacks in Ainzs book or would he even be able to detect it

 

[Antarctic_Icecream]

Why would Ainz start the fight by teleporting away, he did most likely go for grasp heart

And then Ainz sees nothing happens and instantly goes into PK mode.

Whereas Regulus would have no idea why he did what he did or care much about it because he’s an idiot.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

It doesn’t have to be mentioned, it only needs to be shown.

Just from seeing his history with his wives would he realize their value to him.

Which gives him more cards to play against him.

I dont know the value he might find myself so enlighten me pls

 

[DaReaperMan]

I dont know the value he might find myself so enlighten me pls

Like knowing the wives are whats keeping his opponent alive.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Not all of them, also some of them, like Soul Eaters, are AoE passive dura neg.

He starts by time stopping generally, and seeing his shit NOT WORK would spook him into ******* off and throwing summons to test Regulus' abilities

Spooky skeleton get spooked by a spooky guy from a century ago
Anyways yeah thats how it will most likely play out but he will see most of his summons get one shotted

 

[Apeironaxim]

Let's not forget Ainz has at least one resurrection, so he has an entire life to test shit out, and if he dies (which i kinda doubt Regulus will get enough of a chance to accomplish), he now comes back and has a lot more knowledge and will plan accordingly.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

How do i do the cut thing-