Adventure Time Verse Upgrade

[Eneseditzm0]

I opened this crt for an upgrade for one of Cartoon Network's last shining star shows, Adventure Time Verse, Now let's take a look at the Upgrade and who will scale to it

Low Complex Multiverse Upgrade: In our wiki, a universe has a 4-dimensional structure, 3 spatial and 1 temporal dimension. Based on these rules, any universe is automatically taken with these conditions.

In Jake's Father's Dimension, we see that there is a reality that extends to a higher dimension. Jake uses the term extra-dimensional for this place, and before Warren Ampersand is defeated in the End, he uses the term fleshy dimension for the 3rd dimension and then states that he has passed to a higher dimension and that he will go to the 4D dimension. Here, when it is described as a higher dimension than ours, we understand that it is a 4D space, not a 3D space like in our universe, because they emphasize this. When this is combined with the temporal dimension, Finn also stated that black holes are 4th dimension and transcend space and time,They perceive the 4th dimension as a black hole because, as Finn said, it is beyond understanding. which supports Warren Ampersand's words at the end.
Booko say "Some dimensions have permanent links that allow travel to and from. Others become linked temporarily by naturally forming Worm Holes. And others can become linked artificially by magical portals, torn open by items of great power"
it gives a 5D continuity.clearly refers to a reality dimensionally superior to ours, bringing this verse to L1C

What Needs to Be Upgraded:

The Lich with Enchridion: Prismo stated that the Lich would destroy all realities with the book.
Enchridion: He has the power to destroy all Reality.
Golb: Betty said that Golb is the most powerfull force in the universe, which makes him superior to Enchridion, who has the power to destroy the entire multiverse.Beyond even the omnipotent Prismo within existence, outside of existence and above everyone else.
Prismo: He is superior to the dreamers who dream all realities.Also, Prismo is described as being omnipotent in the series, Prismo has the power to affect the entire multiverse within existence, while Scarab is chasing Fionna Cake and Simon, he states that he can easily fix the chaos they created in the universes, and that he can also easily intervene in the universes.

 

[PrimeHydra64]

That statement is kind of dubious as it can be used to say something has extra depth or beauty especially when used artistically which Jake is known for. And fleshy form could also be used to describe how his goal was immortality but now has finally come to terms with death while entering the black hole. So put me down for neutral leaning towards disagreement but would be open to changing with more evidence.

 

[Eneseditzm0]

That statement is kind of dubious as it can be used to say something has extra depth or beauty especially when used artistically which Jake is known for. And fleshy form could also be used to describe how his goal was immortality but now has finally come to terms with death while entering the black hole. So put me down for neutral leaning towards disagreement but would be open to changing with more evidence.

Dude you didn't watch the episode, Warren creates his own children to survive and then steals their life energy, he's not talking about the fact that he's about to die there, he's talking about his ultimate goal ending at a higher point, which even before Warren died was said by Jake to be a multidimensional place, it was previously said that black hole-like structures were higher dimensional in the series.It was clearly said that this place is 4d

 

[PrimeHydra64]

Dude you didn't watch the episode, Warren creates his own children to survive and then steals their life energy, he's not talking about the fact that he's about to die there, he's talking about his ultimate goal ending at a higher point, which even before Warren died was said by Jake to be a multidimensional place, it was previously said that black hole-like structures were higher dimensional in the series.It was clearly said that this place is 4d

I have though, if someone didn't they would probably reach the same conclusion as well as right before the gif shown, Jake just got to the planet and then commented on the ''fantasy, sci fi vibe'' and then says that the black hole really adds an extra dimension to the place. That does not mean he is talking about a higher spatial axis rather the detail of the place that gives it more depth (in a artistic sense). And his goal was to extract the stretchy essence from his children and grand children to become immortal i.e. live forever. And 4D could be commenting on how the show itself portrays black holes as a fourth dimensional construct as shown when Finn blew a fourth dimensional bubble and it being a black hole.

Edit: here is right before the extra dimension statement:

 

[MrTayman616]

Jake uses the term extra-dimensional for this place,

Uh, no. Jake isn't talking about "dimensionality" but view.

 

[Eneseditzm0]

I have though, if someone didn't they would probably reach the same conclusion as well as right before the gif shown, Jake just got to the planet and then commented on the ''fantasy, sci fi vibe'' and then says that the black hole really adds an extra dimension to the place. That does not mean he is talking about a higher spatial axis rather the detail of the place that gives it more depth (in a artistic sense). And his goal was to extract the stretchy essence from his children and grand children to become immortal i.e. live forever. And 4D could be commenting on how the show itself portrays black holes as a fourth dimensional construct as shown when Finn blew a fourth dimensional bubble and it being a black hole.

Edit: here is right before the extra dimension statement:

yes but as warren ampersand said when he was dying it was 4d and as finn said it is a place beyond space and time nothing changes here but the extra dimensional weather phenomenon is related to both the atmosphere and the existence of that place and describes that place.

 

[ArthurBeyy]

I opened this crt for an upgrade for one of Cartoon Network's last shining star shows, Adventure Time Verse, Now let's take a look at the Upgrade and who will scale to it

Low Complex Multiverse Upgrade: In our wiki, a universe has a 4-dimensional structure, 3 spatial and 1 temporal dimension. Based on these rules, any universe is automatically taken with these conditions.

In Jake's Father's Dimension, we see that there is a reality that extends to a higher dimension. Jake uses the term extra-dimensional for this place, and before Warren Ampersand is defeated in the End, he uses the term fleshy dimension for the 3rd dimension and then states that he has passed to a higher dimension and that he will go to the 4D dimension. Here, when it is described as a higher dimension than ours, we understand that it is a 4D space, not a 3D space like in our universe, because they emphasize this. When this is combined with the temporal dimension, it gives a 5D continuity.clearly refers to a reality dimensionally superior to ours, bringing this verse to L1C

What Needs to Be Upgraded:

The Lich with Enchridion: Prismo stated that the Lich would destroy all realities with the book.
Enchridion: He has the power to destroy all Reality.
Golb: Betty said that Golb is the most powerfull force in the universe, which makes him superior to Enchridion, who has the power to destroy the entire multiverse.
Prismo: He is superior to the dreamers who dream all realities.

There doesn't seem to be any error here, I agree.

 

[Eneseditzm0]

Uh, no. Jake isn't talking about "dimensionality" but view.

In fact, Warren Ampersand's words in the final confirm that that place is the 4th dimension, Jake said that it adds an extra-dimensional atmosphere when he realizes that that place is superior to ours, and Finn also proved that such structures are superior to our plane by saying that they are beyond space and time.

 

[MrTayman616]

In fact, Warren Ampersand's words in the final confirm that that place is the 4th dimension, Jake said that it adds an extra-dimensional atmosphere when he realizes that that place is superior to ours, and Finn also proved that such structures are superior to our plane by saying that they are beyond space and time.

I'm not saying you're right or wrong.

Just saying Jake's comment is irrelevant.

 

[PrimeHydra64]

yes but as warren ampersand said when he was dying it was 4d and as finn said it is a place beyond space and time nothing changes here but the extra dimensional weather phenomenon is related to both the atmosphere and the existence of that place and describes that place.

but here they say that Jake is in space not a higher dimension and can you get a link to the beyond time and space for evidence. And why would Jake feel a higher dimension? rather than the sense of detail and theme of it being a fantasy, sci fi ''civilisation''?

 

[Eneseditzm0]

I'm not saying you're right or wrong.

Just saying Jake's comment is irrelevant.

That place is a little bit higher, you know, he said that as an inference, yes, this may not be used for that place, but with the fact that it is the 4th dimension and Finn's comments, it is still confirmed that that place is a place higher than ours, Warren holds that it is higher than our dimension, which he sees as a fleshy form.

 

[Eneseditzm0]

but here they say that Jake is in space not a higher dimension and can you get a link to the beyond time and space for evidence. And why would Jake feel a higher dimension? rather than the sense of detail and theme of it being a fantasy, sci fi ''civilisation''?

The black hole-like structure there is going to the next dimension, my friend. Jake didn't go to the high dimension, he is still in own space. There is no mistake here. Warren Ampersand went to the high dimension.

 

[PrimeHydra64]

But how would the black hole add an extra dimension spatially and how would Jake feel that it is a higher dimension and why would he mention that after commenting on the aesthetics of the ''planet''? And why would Warren feel anxious when moving to this higher 4th dimensional space if his goal is to live forever via his descendants before accepting his fate?

 

[Eneseditzm0]

But how would the black hole add an extra dimension spatially and how would Jake feel that it is a higher dimension and why would he mention that after commenting on the aesthetics of the ''planet''? And why would Warren feel anxious when moving to this higher 4th dimensional space if his goal is to live forever via his descendants before accepting his fate?

He didn't exactly want to die, he was already saying that, he was trying to live as an immortal, later he realized that this would end for him and he would go to a higher place, that's all there is to it and black holes open up to a higher reality, this is something that hasn't changed since the very beginning of the series, so we all agree that there is a higher reality, right? Finn because he states that black holes are superior to space and time.

 

[Sasukesama0492]

Vay be 2025 de Adventure Time savunan biri gözlerim yaşardı

 

[Napoleondevious]

Seems good for me considering the straightforwardness of the statement
Agree for everything, but still waiting for possible counter arguments

 

[Eneseditzm0]

Bump

 

[Da3ggman]

The Jake statement is completely irrelevant; he’s obviously talking about the atmosphere of the space and how it looks, rather than a mathematical dimension.

The 4-D statement is better, but without anything to support what he really means, I don’t think it’s enough to upgrade it. Count me as disagreeing.

 

[Eneseditzm0]

The Jake statement is completely irrelevant; he’s obviously talking about the atmosphere of the space and how it looks, rather than a mathematical dimension.

The 4-D statement is better, but without anything to support what he really means, I don’t think it’s enough to upgrade it. Count me as disagreeing.

Warren Ampersand belittles his own plane, the fleshy plane, and states that he has come to the end of this place and has moved on to the 4th dimension, which as Finn said is a plane beyond space and time, providing a 5d continuity with the space-time continuum.This event is also consistent with Finn's statement that black holes are four-dimensional, and we are told that this place reaches a higher plane.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Won't the Ice King's crown scale to this ?

 

[Eneseditzm0]

Won't the Ice King's crown scale to this ?

No

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

No

Why ?

It's wish granting ability worked on Golb, and you can even argue that magic could possibly scale to it.

 

[Eneseditzm0]

Bump

 

[Qawsedf234]

Finn also stated that black holes are 4th dimension and transcend space and time,They perceive the 4th dimension as a black hole because, as Finn said, it is beyond understanding. which supports Warren Ampersand's words at the end.

This actually kneecaps the rating rather than helps it from how I understand it. This means that for Adventure Time, the fourth dimension is time itself rather than some temporal axis. So it would just be 4D rather than 4D+1. Rick and Morty had similar issues, where time is the fourth dimension rather than a axis.

 

[Eneseditzm0]

This actually kneecaps the rating rather than helps it from how I understand it. This means that for Adventure Time, the fourth dimension is time itself rather than some temporal axis. So it would just be 4D rather than 4D+1. Rick and Morty had similar issues, where time is the fourth dimension rather than a axis.

Actually, we already consider time as 1D, Prismo sends time from its own dimension to the entire multiverse and we consider it as 4D together with 3D space, in fact, in this important fiction, they describe space as 3D, not universes as 4D, a place described as 4D becomes 5D with time because the space axis is defined as 4D within the series.and even if you're right, finn says it's even beyond than time, so that backs up my statement

 

[Qawsedf234]

even if you're right, finn says it's even beyond than time, so that backs up my statement

5D is achieved in two ways

• Five geometric axis
• A four-dimensional space that has an uncountable infinite number of temporal snapshots

Being "beyond time" means the second choice isn't possible, and all that's left is the geometric axis, which is explicitly 4D and uses a tesseract to showcase it.

So it doesn't back up 5D because the statement doesn't work with our standards.

 

[Eneseditzm0]

5D is achieved in two ways

• Five geometric axis
• A four-dimensional space that has an uncountable infinite number of temporal snapshots

Being "beyond time" means the second choice isn't possible, and all that's left is the geometric axis, which is explicitly 4D and uses a tesseract to showcase it.

So it doesn't back up 5D because the statement doesn't work with our standards.

It is actually considered a superior place in terms of plane, a place where 3D is a fleshed out reality and beyond it, so this would actually make a 5D structure within our wiki framework. Because time mixes with space and creates a union, this makes the 4th dimension, and this place is called 4D because its spatial structure is superior to ours, so it is not like 3D universe + 1D time, it is 4D universe + 1D time because the scarab says that time goes to the entire multiverse.

 

[Qawsedf234]

it, so this would actually make a 5D structure within our wiki framework.

It wouldn't, since time would just be the 4th Spatial Axis, which means that it being 4D already means it's unrestricted by time as a concept and would be above conventional space. If you can prove the 4th Dimension has a time axis you may have something, but currently nothing provided satisfies that standard.

s 4D universe + 1D time because the scarab says that time goes to the entire multiverse.

If time is the fourth dimension then every universe or realm is 3D+1, with the fourth dimension encompassing everything at just 4D.

I'm not seeing it right now. So list me as disagreeing unless new evidence is provided.

 

[Eneseditzm0]

It wouldn't, since time would just be the 4th Spatial Axis, which means that it being 4D already means it's unrestricted by time as a concept and would be above conventional space. If you can prove the 4th Dimension has a time axis you may have something, but currently nothing provided satisfies that standard.

If time is the fourth dimension then every universe or realm is 3D+1, with the fourth dimension encompassing everything at just 4D.

I'm not seeing it right now. So list me as disagreeing unless new evidence is provided.

You are probably right

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

It being 4D, yet beyond space and time, is contradictory. Also needs evidence of superiority.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Minor Bump

 

[Telomera]

It being 4D, yet beyond space and time, is contradictory. Also needs evidence of superiority.

Something being "beyond space and time" doesn't necessarily say anything about its own dimensionality