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Ok so after reading the profiles on this wiki,I have massive issues with how the five nights at Freddy’s verse has been treated and improperly scaled on this site,so the first thing I will do is debunk all the main issues that people have with the cosmology on this site starting off with the downplays
1.”Mangle gets taken apart by kids so below average dura in joints”
Debunk: first of all we don't know how they dismantled said robot and destroyed where using what all we see is the children tearing off parts of the already destroyed version, we don't know what they used or had done overtime
This could also be a stupid inconsistency a similar thing happening commonly in fiction down there is an example of a inconsisty
for example Silver Surfer in Marvel Comics somehow got hurt by bricks despite having more then Complex Multi Dura or someshit
Hulk being defeated by Captain America, and an ordinary python, or being severely harmed by regular gorillas.
Goku being unable to lift 40 tons
Batman being able to fight evenly with characters far beyond his class.
Silver Surfer being unable to dodge, and feeling pain from Storm's lightning bolt.
Pre Crisis Superman being unable to defeat Karate Kid when PC Superman is far beyond his class.
Along with that if mangles body was so weak then she would fall over the ground right? Well no this is defeated by her compressing herself to fit inside vents and even crawl on the wall hell if she’s so weak by the logic then why aren’t we a gaurd Able to destroy her when she attacks or even her being able to bite at our skull and her not breaking etc,along with that the animatronics during the day are in a idle state so mangle isn’t in the situation to defend herself so we can’t really use this to downplay her nor toys nor ordinals since there’s many inconsistencies with this “anti feat”
Also why does Freddy’s profile says “comparable to mangle and possibly comparable” this is just a massive flaw within these profiles and shows how they’re given very little care and as for a wiki we should answers for things.
2.The books,ok so this will be the most controversial but I don’t think it should be for the reasons im bout to give
I will address the original 3 Novels(Silver eyes,Twisted ones and the 4th closet)
Then I will addesss the fazbear frights and tales books
-so about the novels we need to get down is that Scott stated the the books just as the games are but are in a separate universe we are still able to use the novels for games due to Scott’s multiple statements about hkw despite being in a different universe they work as expansions and give information for the games along with Scott stating that himself when talking about the 4th closet stating how for how it gives an idea for molten Freddy( a games character) origins which would entail how these are still usable,also
“Henry kills himself in novels but dies in fire of pizza simulator” ok so this argument is flawed because he kills himself in both ends for his daughter so this doesn’t refute anything if anything it works as a connection of how the novels influence the games,
Conclusion-So the novels would apply to the games in the sense of how they give us answers and elaborate on game elements.
Now to the fazbear frights
This part will be the most important due to higher tier characters inside the verse
Scott stated on Reddit how these books will tie to the story of fnaf and how some are connected while some aren’t.https://web.archive.org/web/20181114095349/https://steamcommunity.com/app/871720/discussions/0/1733210552660120120/
But we are given the answers as to the canon parts through the ultimate guide WHICH should have been used in the first place for fnaf characters but was never which is once again as massive flaw on the site end.So we should pay attention to the guide books
Now that’s out of the way let’s get to the main point Scott stated the cannon books through “stitchwraith stingers” along with the epilogue where they take place after fnaf 6 and answers what ucn is,I will send screenshots but will give this one statement that Scott states when talking about man in room 1280 it should also be noted how Scott even stated when giving summary’s to the frights books how they are “new leads” for the games with that in mind let’s get to the statement for man in room and it’s new leads
“
While several Fazbear Frights stories tie in to the series' larger meta story, "The Man in Room 1280" leads directly into the meta story— and the return of Afton.
William Afton: The events of the story seem to indicate that the man in Room 1280 is William Afton. This is backed up by the man's injuries (matching the ending of Pizzeria Simulator), the fact that he seems to be unkillable, the upernatural events that surround him, and the events of the stingers that ollow the story.”
-now to the tales books
Scott and schoolastics blatantly stated along with the fazbear frights that these books are not only canon but are part of the universe of the fnaf games,along with that we see the mimic who is a books character appear in fnaf security breach and has the same design and description and even stated by Gregory of how “it was down for a really long time” which it was when it came to the epilogues as it was sealed up inside the fnaf 6 locations
Here’s a link from a video that explains schoolastics and Scott’s statements 1:28
So the tales which are associated with frights as in the same universe as the games
-Also I wanna adresss the foxy calc as this calc was taken inaccurately ONCE AGAIN in the guide books written by Scott he states how you only have a matter of seconds to block foxy and how foxy gets from the door back to his cove within secs or even a second,this would diminish the calc as it was taken badly and disregarding Scott’s assertion which tied to the game. So my suggestion is that from the context this feat of foxy going the Halls,which btw is a short distance should atleast be superhuman.
Now to fnaf ar
The original cast should be comparable,if not superior to their fnaf ar counterparts,why? Because the fnaf ar characters have multiple statements about being made from the original characters(toys funtimes etc) but due to agony and remnant which I’ll elaborate on later,the original cast should be superior,
Also the verse should scale higher then street level since going by statemnts and novels we have characters crushing the human body,tanking explosions ripping holes into buildings,holding up massive buckets and even more stronger things
So what’s my suggestion to how fnaf scaling should work on here well I would have something like this to give the verse a good chance(also should check on the many calcs that have been posted but ignored)
I will use the mimic for an example
Tier-wall level-atleast 9-A
They would have subsonic speed as there’s assertions as to be or move as faster than a blur and blitzing human perception along with afton in frights being stated how he moves as a speeding race car etc.
(Also spirits would count for Ap but wouldn’t count for physically stuff,just overall)
Now I will send screenshots of my said points of books etc etc.
If you have issues I will address them the best I can and answer questions if you even have any.
UPDATE-Oh yeah fnaf world
Scott Cawthon completely stated how it was canon and tied to the games, which by the gameplay and context in mini games was fnaf 3 and fnaf 4 so fnaf world should apply to profiles,I also have a profile where I address the errors on fnaf worlds scaling
1.”Mangle gets taken apart by kids so below average dura in joints”
Debunk: first of all we don't know how they dismantled said robot and destroyed where using what all we see is the children tearing off parts of the already destroyed version, we don't know what they used or had done overtime
This could also be a stupid inconsistency a similar thing happening commonly in fiction down there is an example of a inconsisty
for example Silver Surfer in Marvel Comics somehow got hurt by bricks despite having more then Complex Multi Dura or someshit
Hulk being defeated by Captain America, and an ordinary python, or being severely harmed by regular gorillas.
Goku being unable to lift 40 tons
Batman being able to fight evenly with characters far beyond his class.
Silver Surfer being unable to dodge, and feeling pain from Storm's lightning bolt.
Pre Crisis Superman being unable to defeat Karate Kid when PC Superman is far beyond his class.
Along with that if mangles body was so weak then she would fall over the ground right? Well no this is defeated by her compressing herself to fit inside vents and even crawl on the wall hell if she’s so weak by the logic then why aren’t we a gaurd Able to destroy her when she attacks or even her being able to bite at our skull and her not breaking etc,along with that the animatronics during the day are in a idle state so mangle isn’t in the situation to defend herself so we can’t really use this to downplay her nor toys nor ordinals since there’s many inconsistencies with this “anti feat”
Also why does Freddy’s profile says “comparable to mangle and possibly comparable” this is just a massive flaw within these profiles and shows how they’re given very little care and as for a wiki we should answers for things.
2.The books,ok so this will be the most controversial but I don’t think it should be for the reasons im bout to give
I will address the original 3 Novels(Silver eyes,Twisted ones and the 4th closet)
Then I will addesss the fazbear frights and tales books
-so about the novels we need to get down is that Scott stated the the books just as the games are but are in a separate universe we are still able to use the novels for games due to Scott’s multiple statements about hkw despite being in a different universe they work as expansions and give information for the games along with Scott stating that himself when talking about the 4th closet stating how for how it gives an idea for molten Freddy( a games character) origins which would entail how these are still usable,also
“Henry kills himself in novels but dies in fire of pizza simulator” ok so this argument is flawed because he kills himself in both ends for his daughter so this doesn’t refute anything if anything it works as a connection of how the novels influence the games,
Conclusion-So the novels would apply to the games in the sense of how they give us answers and elaborate on game elements.
Now to the fazbear frights
This part will be the most important due to higher tier characters inside the verse
Scott stated on Reddit how these books will tie to the story of fnaf and how some are connected while some aren’t.https://web.archive.org/web/20181114095349/https://steamcommunity.com/app/871720/discussions/0/1733210552660120120/
But we are given the answers as to the canon parts through the ultimate guide WHICH should have been used in the first place for fnaf characters but was never which is once again as massive flaw on the site end.So we should pay attention to the guide books
Now that’s out of the way let’s get to the main point Scott stated the cannon books through “stitchwraith stingers” along with the epilogue where they take place after fnaf 6 and answers what ucn is,I will send screenshots but will give this one statement that Scott states when talking about man in room 1280 it should also be noted how Scott even stated when giving summary’s to the frights books how they are “new leads” for the games with that in mind let’s get to the statement for man in room and it’s new leads
“
While several Fazbear Frights stories tie in to the series' larger meta story, "The Man in Room 1280" leads directly into the meta story— and the return of Afton.
William Afton: The events of the story seem to indicate that the man in Room 1280 is William Afton. This is backed up by the man's injuries (matching the ending of Pizzeria Simulator), the fact that he seems to be unkillable, the upernatural events that surround him, and the events of the stingers that ollow the story.”
-now to the tales books
Scott and schoolastics blatantly stated along with the fazbear frights that these books are not only canon but are part of the universe of the fnaf games,along with that we see the mimic who is a books character appear in fnaf security breach and has the same design and description and even stated by Gregory of how “it was down for a really long time” which it was when it came to the epilogues as it was sealed up inside the fnaf 6 locations
Here’s a link from a video that explains schoolastics and Scott’s statements 1:28
So the tales which are associated with frights as in the same universe as the games
-Also I wanna adresss the foxy calc as this calc was taken inaccurately ONCE AGAIN in the guide books written by Scott he states how you only have a matter of seconds to block foxy and how foxy gets from the door back to his cove within secs or even a second,this would diminish the calc as it was taken badly and disregarding Scott’s assertion which tied to the game. So my suggestion is that from the context this feat of foxy going the Halls,which btw is a short distance should atleast be superhuman.
Now to fnaf ar
The original cast should be comparable,if not superior to their fnaf ar counterparts,why? Because the fnaf ar characters have multiple statements about being made from the original characters(toys funtimes etc) but due to agony and remnant which I’ll elaborate on later,the original cast should be superior,
Also the verse should scale higher then street level since going by statemnts and novels we have characters crushing the human body,tanking explosions ripping holes into buildings,holding up massive buckets and even more stronger things
So what’s my suggestion to how fnaf scaling should work on here well I would have something like this to give the verse a good chance(also should check on the many calcs that have been posted but ignored)
I will use the mimic for an example
Tier-wall level-atleast 9-A
They would have subsonic speed as there’s assertions as to be or move as faster than a blur and blitzing human perception along with afton in frights being stated how he moves as a speeding race car etc.
(Also spirits would count for Ap but wouldn’t count for physically stuff,just overall)
Now I will send screenshots of my said points of books etc etc.
If you have issues I will address them the best I can and answer questions if you even have any.
UPDATE-Oh yeah fnaf world
Scott Cawthon completely stated how it was canon and tied to the games, which by the gameplay and context in mini games was fnaf 3 and fnaf 4 so fnaf world should apply to profiles,I also have a profile where I address the errors on fnaf worlds scaling
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