Accepted---God (Tensura)

[Eikichi_Sensei]

Hello everyone, this is another Tensura CRT; this topic should be very simple.

All in One should get Nonexistent Physiology Type 2 for the following reasons:

First: Hell and the negative energy that is emptiness (NEP 1) were accepted a few days ago.

Hell/Underworld: Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 1, Aspect Type 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5 (Others: Space & Time, Life & Death, Law & Causality)

Now we have this scan:

Gadora was releasing dark magic that manipulated emptiness itself, a forbidden skill if there ever was one. These voids, released into the world like this, did not disappear until the EP of their effects was reduced to zero. They filled the space between the magic circles, erasing all that existed within. Any mistake in controlling this spell would result in this ultimate magic destroying the world.
Nihilistic magic did its work by using its negative EP to annihilate matter and existence. If so, then saturating the area with positive energy would cancel the damage, reducing it to zero. As a giant, Daggrull was an enormous mass of magicules. Even Nihilistic Parade, which contained Gadora's full power, would be no match for him.

When she built a Nihilistic World, if the area was filled with “positive” life force, it would interact with the “negative” void energy manifested by Nihilistic World, making them cancel each other out and disappear. If this skill was expanded over a wide enough area, that would mean a mass sacrifice of all life-forms inside.

As we can see, when positive energy and negative energy (nep 1) collide and cancel each other, they reach a point where they become zero.

Zero is also called "nothing."

My opinion is that time is a phenomenon that tends from completeness (Infinity) to nothingness (Zero), and that endpoint is the "All-in-One."

If negative energy is nonexistence (0) but there is something beyond nonexistence, it's textbook (in my opinion) nep 2.

Apologies to my fellow verse enthusiasts for this sudden thread, but I was actually expecting this update after negative energy was accepted as nep 1.

It's nighttime in my country, so I'll let this thread continue without me. Apologies again for the inconvenience.

Edit: Deleted


Agree: Elizhaa, SomebodyData, Random-Helper323 (Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 2, Aspect Type 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5 (Others: Space & Time, Life & Death, Law & Causality))

Neutral:

Disagree:

 

[Ciel_Trinity439]

 

[Hecky2222]

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Should have at least consulted other supporters bruh
Do you have discord? Even the tensura general discussion would have been fine.

Well, in any case, the "Zero" (nothingness) in the All-One scan is an actual thing, it's the world of Death from V23

The "zero" from the negative energy scan however is just wording. Same as "their punch's energy cancelled out each other into nothing".

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

Should have at least consulted other supporters bruh
Do you have discord? Even the tensura general discussion would have been fine.

Well, in any case, the "Zero" (nothingness) in the All-One scan is an actual thing, it's the world of Death from V23

The "zero" from the negative energy scan however is just wording. Same as "their punch's energy cancelled out each other into nothing".

I only use that scan to differentiate between nonexistence (negative energy) and something beyond nonexistence (0).

Since I don't think you believe the world of death is pure negative energy.

In any case, let me know if you see any flaws in this case regarding nep 2.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

In any case, let me know if you see any flaws in this case regarding nep 2.

I guess it's fine, but I was planning on separating all one from Velda and making more distinctions, adding different concepts of All One, so All One upgrades at this time are kinda way too early

 

[Hecky2222]

Do we have AIO profile, if no

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

Do we have AIO profile, if no

We have it, but it's on Veldanava's profile. I wonder why they haven't separated it yet .

 

[ExcelsisBerny]

I agree with NEP type 2 for Milim

 

[Hecky2222]

I agree with NEP type 2 for Milim

can we allow Ac5 and TD3 and layers of everything scaling for her exclusively as well

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

I agree with NEP 2 for every waifu. For any other character who doesn’t fall into that class, I disagree, including non-gendered ones

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

Okay, enough joking around, I thought notifications were for counterarguments or agreements, not for seeing this .

 

[PrimeHydra64]

I agree with this

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

I guess it's fine, but I was planning on separating all one from Velda and making more distinctions, adding different concepts of All One, so All One upgrades at this time are kinda way too early

I swear, we already have 2 CRTs for this ongoing....

 

[Bahaha]

Thought All-One should have been separated from Veldanava's profile after Code's CRT.

 

[Vesxpura]

yes finally, some actual hax this All-one bum can use

 

[Humanitus_Primevilus888]

Looks…alright I guess…tho we might change Rimuru’s tier to 2-A since he killed a being with a 2-A durability (Veldanava/luvelge)

 

[AyOgUyS]

I'll tentatively agree since what I presume are Tensura supporters r agreeing

 

[Elizhaa]

It is basically the case NEP Nature Type 2 is basically Nondual/PP or transdual nonexistence, from DontTalkDT who revised the page; I mentioned it in a related thread.
I think NEP Nature Type 2 and all aspects valid from the justification:

• Omnipresence, Large Size (Type 9), Paraconsistent Physiology (Type 1), Abstract Existence (Type 1), Limited Nonexistent Physiology (Type 1) & Beyond-Dimensional Existence (Type 1; He is a singular existence, the primordial will that exist as and separate from everything else, his consciousness holds all things, the one that is all and the all that is one yet alone in the world, he is devoid of everything and nothing, for those are just pure parts of himself)

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

It is basically the case NEP Nature Type 2 is basically Nondual/PP or transdual nonexistence, from DontTalkDT who revised the page; I mentioned it in a related thread.
I think NEP Nature Type 2 and all aspects valid from the justification:

• Omnipresence, Large Size (Type 9), Paraconsistent Physiology (Type 1), Abstract Existence (Type 1), Limited Nonexistent Physiology (Type 1) & Beyond-Dimensional Existence (Type 1; He is a singular existence, the primordial will that exist as and separate from everything else, his consciousness holds all things, the one that is all and the all that is one yet alone in the world, he is devoid of everything and nothing, for those are just pure parts of himself)

Excuse me, could you tag more staff members?

 

[Elizhaa]

I think you misunderstood; These are justifications and abilities are already accepted and listed on the page and are not new proposals but can served as justifications for the current proposals in the thread.

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

Okay, then I'll edit the comment.

 

[Elizhaa]

@Random-Helper323 @Vietthai96 @Reiner04 @Celestial_Pegasus your inputs would be appreciated

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

Bump

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

Bump

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

Bump

 

[SomebodyData]

I don't see any issues, so I'll agree with the addition.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

I don't see any issues, so I'll agree with the addition.

Are 2 staff enough for this CRT?

 

[sukuna171]

Honestly this seems like just type 1 nep to me

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Honestly this seems like just type 1 nep to me

Basically it's the end point of convergence between cosmology and "zero"

Cosmology has NEP1 and layered NEP1 stuff included in it

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Hello everyone, this is another Tensura CRT; this topic should be very simple.

All in One should get Nonexistent Physiology Type 2 for the following reasons:

First: Hell and the negative energy that is emptiness (NEP 1) were accepted a few days ago.

Now we have this scan:





As we can see, when positive energy and negative energy (nep 1) collide and cancel each other, they reach a point where they become zero.

Zero is also called "nothing."



If negative energy is nonexistence (0) but there is something beyond nonexistence, it's textbook (in my opinion) nep 2.

Apologies to my fellow verse enthusiasts for this sudden thread, but I was actually expecting this update after negative energy was accepted as nep 1.

It's nighttime in my country, so I'll let this thread continue without me. Apologies again for the inconvenience.

Also, I almost forgot
As for the aspects, it'll be Type 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 [Others: Space, Time, History, Fate, Life, Death, Causality, Laws)

Fate is from Veldanava's profile:

Fate Manipulation (His Uriel have control over space and over all events, events is fate, in other words this works on Ultimate Skill users who are acausual type 4 beings - Via <Destiny Alteration>, can alter destiny and change the results of an outcome at will, the limit being that it can only be used once on the same target once a day and can also be used to avoid Death, and the limit only applies when used on the same target, as it can be used any arbitrary amount of times on different targets)

History is from here:

By making full use of the Ultimate Skill Strict King Jibril, and if one were to exercise its terrifying authority Divine Victory, Certain Punishment: Heavenly Judgment, it should have been able to annihilate the White Ape Byakuen in a single blow. Pico’s Divine Victory, Certain Punishment: Heavenly Judgment is an extremely unreasonable, phenomenon alteration type ability that reproduces on the target’s own body the damage that the target has inflicted on enemies up until now. To oppose this, it is necessary to possess at least some kind of higher authority of an alteration type, such as laws, phenomena, or fate. Kumara’s Ultimate Gift King of Phantom Beasts Bahamut is an authority specialized in dominion over natural influence. If it were something like illusions, since they carry divinity, they have become ineffective, but Pico’s Divine Victory, Certain Punishment: Heavenly Judgment would have worked.
Source

Rest is from demon physiology:

Species (Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken)

Spiritual Lifeforms are characters in Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken, they are almost god-like existences that need only their mind to remain alive. They're a step above Demi-Spiritual Lifeforms and have transcended the body entirely, making them effectively immortal they are also known as...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Since these things are part of the cosmology, God's NEP would have this

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

I don't see any issues, so I'll agree with the addition.

dataaa
Can you check my above comment about aspects too

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Also, I almost forgot
As for the aspects, it'll be Type 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 [Others: Space, Time, Fate, Life, Death, Causality, Laws, Logic)

Fate is from Veldanava's profile:


And logic is from cosmology page:

And yes it means logic/fundamental truths:

Official Translation Requests Thread (New forum)

Hello Can someone translate these please? I used chatgpt to extract the text but for obvious reasons I'm not confident they are a 1:1 with the scans.

vsbattles.com

Rest is from self physiology:

Species (Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken)

Spiritual Lifeforms are characters in Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken, they are almost god-like existences that need only their mind to remain alive. They're a step above Demi-Spiritual Lifeforms and have transcended the body entirely, making them effectively immortal they are also known as...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Since these things are part of the cosmology, God's NEP would have this

Logic should be removed if it isn’t accepted as a metaphysical aspect (i.e., this), since simply being reason or logic isn’t enough to prove it. So it’s a law without further context.

 

[PrimeHydra64]

Honestly this seems like just type 1 nep to me

Hell is nonexistent
Abyss is further nonexistent
and the thing that is after the abyss itself collapses and the chaos that was before it was born was Nihility Collapse energy.

and all of that and existence converges to absolute nothing (Zero) which is All One/ All In One.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Logic should be removed if it isn’t accepted as a metaphysical aspect (i.e., this), since simply being reason or logic isn’t enough to prove it, can be taken as law.

Scan from tl thread kinda talks about both law and logic in different ways at once but alr

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

The aspects of nep 2 are being accepted because I used hell as a base for nep 2, for new aspects I would have to ask the two staff members again.

I'm going to edit the OP with what's been accepted so far about the aspects; we still need to ask about the new aspects .

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

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The OP has been updated, sorry for the inconvenience but I would like to know your opinion on the aspects that the colleague Astral_Trinity439 has just argued here.

Fate is from Veldanava's profile:

Fate Manipulation (His Uriel have control over space and over all events, events is fate, in other words this works on Ultimate Skill users who are acausual type 4 beings - Via <Destiny Alteration>, can alter destiny and change the results of an outcome at will, the limit being that it can only be used once on the same target once a day and can also be used to avoid Death, and the limit only applies when used on the same target, as it can be used any arbitrary amount of times on different targets)

History is from here:

By making full use of the Ultimate Skill Strict King Jibril, and if one were to exercise its terrifying authority Divine Victory, Certain Punishment: Heavenly Judgment, it should have been able to annihilate the White Ape Byakuen in a single blow. Pico’s Divine Victory, Certain Punishment: Heavenly Judgment is an extremely unreasonable, phenomenon alteration type ability that reproduces on the target’s own body the damage that the target has inflicted on enemies up until now. To oppose this, it is necessary to possess at least some kind of higher authority of an alteration type, such as laws, phenomena, or fate. Kumara’s Ultimate Gift King of Phantom Beasts Bahamut is an authority specialized in dominion over natural influence. If it were something like illusions, since they carry divinity, they have become ineffective, but Pico’s Divine Victory, Certain Punishment: Heavenly Judgment would have worked.
Source

 

[sukuna171]

I still only see type 1 nep but that's only my opinion

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

I still only see type 1 nep but that's only my opinion

A simple way to understand this is this:

Negative energy, which is non-existence (0), even has layers of neph 1 for it.

Zero, which is something beyond negative energy, cannot be neph 1 or have layers of it because it is not negative energy.

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

Bump