Accelerator vs. Sebastian Shaw

[Wokistan]

He seems to have a High 6-A shield even in the tier 7 keys.

 

[VoidGoji]

His High 6-A feat was done in the 7-B key.

 

[Malox1696]

And yet he is limited because "Aiwass punched through it"

aiwass is tier 1 at least and is out of the system of the world so it's not really fair, technically speaking he should not have limits with simply force, but we keep it at tier 7-6 cause he has not shown a greater feat and the rules of this server (tho with the 3rd newton law he already has no limits as there is no force to push him back)


now on topic shaw can't pass vector shield with force as force is a vector, but eh is not immune to telepathy and accel can mess with his brain when he is inside his AIM: If someone attacks him while mentally paralyze or unconscious, he can easily get injured or killed

so i dont see the problem, leaving aside all the other way he can move oxygen or any other indirect attack like trowing him in to space,etc

that's why this is a stomp, swan can't stall 30 min while keeping pressure cause if he just hides accel goes to the nearest outlet/cable and recharges

 

[Schnee_One]

Aiwass is Tier One

His Avatar, a tier 5, cut Accel nearly in half.

Not like it matters since the quotes were sarcastic

 

[Malox1696]

at least 5b and as i said the problem was not force, simply aiwass does not abide by the rules of the world and so his vector are completely different, he is outside of the system and can't be armed in universe as he will always exist

 

[AnonymousBlank]

This is basically neither can harm each other for 30 mins and Shaw slaps.

 

[Malox1696]

well i see ignoring everything other people said is not a valid argument

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Who ignored what? One bounces everything away for 30 minutes while the other can't be harmed by force unless he turns is power off/gets mind whammied into doing it (hint hint that won't happen).

 

[Zensum]

Just gonna clarify some things about the mechanics of the abilities from the earlier discussion. Fox Sebastian can absorb KE, nuclear and other energies like Havoc's beams. Given he can take in KE he is basically immune to any force that hits his body so Accelerators normal method of changing the direction of vectors from his surrondings to produce destructive force would be ineffective. As a matter of fact this would only make him stronger. Now on the topic of Accelerator manipulating Shaws own vectors, normally you would think he should be able to absorb that energy too. After all in order to make a 100 J ball heading north head south with 100 J you gotta slap it with 200 J in the opposite direction. However esper ability is based on calculation of the forces that would cause that movement and from those calculations the object of that power is changed through personal reality. When Accelerator sucessfully calculates the 100 J balls vectors they simply change direction, there is no power being physically put in the equation to make them change so bringing it back Sebastain, there is no energy present for him to absorb. You could argue he could absorb the power that is produced from vector transformation but if they are his own vectors he would already be very dead. So reverse blood flow, bio-electricity and remote vector control are viable counters.

 

[Malox1696]

btw all force are vectors, not the other way around


he only has (Kinetic) Energy Absorption and even then he does not absorbs the force of gravity

 

[DontTalkDT]

>Accel tries to redirect bloodflow

>Shaw absorbs kinetic energy of bloodflow to prevent it going in reverse

>bloodflow now stands still, instead of running in reverse

>Shaw still dies from it

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

bump

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Bump

 

[Scrlk666777]

Accel wins.

I don't see how Sebestian gets past reflection and he Accel can just reverse his blood and make him explode.

 

[Schnee_One]

Necro

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Even after the OP tried to do a last bump a month ago. So sad.