Accelerator vs Satoru Gojo

[LaserPrecision]

Care to explain it with proof?

Like with scans? Sure.

As noted by Kenjaku, Domain's are able to nullify all techniques, even Gojo's complex spatial manip

However, cursed energy, the energy system of the verse is unaffected, because as explained by Gojo, cursed energy can be used to counter cursed techniques of the domain caster:

On top of that, it was never stated Domain Expansion nullified Cursed Energy, just Cursed Techniques, which are merely an application of cursed energy.

Thus hax in and of itself are what is nullified. Not the energy system.

Therefore, it could null some of Accelerator's hax

 

[LaserPrecision]

How large is Gojo's domain expansion anyways

Kinda a confusing question since on the inside, Domain's are like super massive, but on the outside are like several meters across. Though ones like Sukuna's reach hundreds of meters.

 

[Arkenis]

Considering the complexity of his conceptual manipulation I'd say nullifying vectors is well in his capabilities.

 

[Aseka]

On top of that, it was never stated Domain Expansion nullified Cursed Energy, just Cursed Techniques, which are merely an application of cursed energy.

Thus hax in and of itself are what is nullified. Not the energy system.

Therefore, it could null some of Accelerator's hax

Then it just nullifies cursed techniques which using cursed energy. Not all hax. It can't nullifies Accelerator's hax which not using cursed energy.

 

[Aseka]

Considering the complexity of his conceptual manipulation I'd say nullifying vectors is well in his capabilities.

His DE using conceptual manipulation?

 

[LaserPrecision]

Then it just nullifies cursed techniques which using cursed energy. Not all hax. It can't nullifies Accelerator's hax which not using cursed energy.

No, it nullifies the hax that the Cursed Techniques produce. It's pretty blatant that it affects the hax in and of itself if cursed energy can still be used to attack and counter within a Domain.

If it can nullify something like Gojo's conceptual space-time hax, it can def nullify Accelerator's

 

[Arkenis]

Then it just nullifies cursed techniques which using cursed energy. Not all hax. It can't nullifies Accelerator's hax which not using cursed energy.

This doesn't really work. It isn't nullifying CT because it uses curse energy, it just nullfies CT, so what is the difference with Accel hax and curse techniques?

His DE using conceptual manipulation?

No Domains can nullify Gojo's limitless as shown with Jogo, which is conceptual so Gojo's domain would do the same.

 

[Aseka]

If it can nullify something like Gojo's conceptual space-time hax, it can def nullify Accelerator's

I thought DE strike the target instantly, ignoring distance. So it can bypass Infinity. Or I am wrong?

 

[Arkenis]

I thought DE strike the target instantly, ignoring distance. So it can bypass Infinity. Or I am wrong?

DE guaranteed hits do yeah, but it doesn't "bypass" infinity, the infinity is power nulled by the domain so there is no bypassing it.

 

[Arkenis]

Also sorry kinda, I'm not sure what's being kept and whats being removed on Gojo's page so the conceptual stuff I just never put but I will separate his domain hax on the page to clear it up slightly.

 

[Aseka]

So both sides can bypass def, huh. What is the range of the battle?

 

[Doggo]

Btw, you still have to choose a key. Post-headshot or Post-Aiwass would be in line with the arguments presented in this thread.

Post-Oliphah BW accel

 

[LaserPrecision]

DE guaranteed hits do yeah, but it doesn't "bypass" infinity, the infinity is power nulled by the domain so there is no bypassing it.

Only some abilities hit targets instantly, some techniques simply spawn homing attacks for their "guarantees hit". Like Jogo's technique that Gojo countered. If we assume it hit instantly that would mean Gojo has infinite speed. Some techniques like transfiguration def insta affect the people inside

 

[Doggo]

Honestly i think should just change it to plat wing accel since thats more fair

 

[Churronzon]

Post Qliphah, he'd just go into plat wings in character though. Idk if you can restrict his plat wings like that.

Honestly i think should just change it to plat wing accel since thats more fair

And I don't think it'd be more fair, what about you LaserPrecision?

 

[Doggo]

Only some abilities hit targets instantly, some techniques simply spawn homing attacks for their "guarantees hit". Like Jogo's technique that Gojo countered. If we assume it hit instantly that would mean Gojo has infinite speed. Some techniques like transfiguration def insta affect the people inside

If it hits targets instantly then it could bypass Acclerators refelction

 

[Arkenis]

So both sides can bypass def, huh. What is the range of the battle?

Well Gojo's highest ranged stuff is purple, red and blue, but range isn't much of an issue with Gojo since he can teleport people across cities and also should be able to do the same for himself, and also Domains can be moved as well.

 

[Aseka]

If we assume it hit instantly that would mean Gojo has infinite speed.

It's more like teleportation, just like Fiamma's Holy Right which delivers attack instantly to it's target.

 

[Doggo]

Post Qliphah, he'd just go into plat wings in character though. Idk if you can restrict his plat wings like that. And I don't think it'd be more fair, what about you LaserPrecision?

i mean you could still restrict something if it a different tier rights?

 

[Aseka]

If it hits targets instantly then it could bypass Acclerators refelction

But Accel can redirect Teleporter powers tho

 

[Arkenis]

i mean you could still restrict something if it a different tier rights?

yes i think so.

 

[Doggo]

Oh yeah i gojo has existence erasure with purple idk it would work on accel tho

 

[Arkenis]

But Accel can redirect Teleporter powers tho

Gojo's domain's guaranteed hit is information dumping so can Accel control info?

 

[Aseka]

Well Gojo's highest ranged stuff is purple, red and blue, but range isn't much of an issue with Gojo since he can teleport people across cities and also should be able to do the same for himself, and also Domains can be moved as well.

Given it's using own speed, I think Accel can outspeed him.

 

[Arkenis]

Oh yeah i gojo has existence erasure with purple idk it would work on accel tho

If he can control imaginary mass or conceptual stuff then I don't see why Accel couldn't move it or stop it.

 

[Doggo]

Gojo's domain's guaranteed hit is information dumping so can Accel control info?

His smarter than 100 supercomputers i think he could survive long enough to counter attack

 

[Aseka]

Gojo's domain's guaranteed hit is information dumping so can Accel control info?

I think Accel can rewrite information on Last Order's brain. Wait.

 

[Doggo]

If he can control imaginary mass or conceptual stuff then I don't see why Accel couldn't move it or stop it.

He can control imaginary vector

 

[Arkenis]

Given it's using own speed, I think Accel can outspeed him.

Well when someone's too fast for Gojo he usually will just use large aoe like max Blue but that likely won't work so he may just go with domain. Though if Accel just can't get past limitless Im not sure what really happens.

 

[Doggo]

Should i change this Platinum wings accel?

 

[Churronzon]

Though if Accel just can't get past limitless Im not sure what really happens.

Can you explain why the metaphysical attack wouldn't work? Are you telling me Gojo can prevent concepts from reaching him?

Should i change this Platinum wings accel?

Why would you, no one is getting stomped(yet).

 

[Arkenis]

He can control imaginary vector

Yeah then he should easily shut down purple.

His smarter than 100 supercomputers i think he could survive long enough to counter attack

Uh not too knowledgeable on this but just 0.2 seconds of his domain dumped 3 months worth of info onto humans and only paralyzed curses for a couple seconds at most 10 so anything longer and he's likely start destroying Accel's brain with years worth of info.

 

[Aseka]

Though if Accel just can't get past limitless Im not sure what really happens.

Through remote vectors, he can.

 

[Doggo]

Well when someone's too fast for Gojo he usually will just use large aoe like max Blue but that likely won't work so he may just go with domain. Though if Accel just can't get past limitless Im not sure what really happens.

He can suck the air of the area. He can also just mess with the vectors of his body

 

[Doggo]

Yeah then he should easily shut down purple.


Uh not too knowledgeable on this but just 0.2 seconds of his domain dumped 3 months worth of info onto humans and only paralyzed curses for a couple seconds at most 10 so anything longer and he's likely start destroying Accel's brain with years worth of info.

Those are normal humans not Extraordinary geniuses like Accelerator

 

[Aseka]

Yeah, normal humans whose brain didn't same as supercomputer, and Accelerator's brain exceed of that a hundred supercomputers.

 

[Churronzon]

Accelerator isn't the one performing the calculations if it changes anything. The Misaka Network does.

Accelerator had these calculation powers in his pre-headshot key. Idk why it's being argued for w/e key this is.

 

[Arkenis]

Can you explain why the metaphysical attack wouldn't work? Are you telling me Gojo can prevent concepts from reaching him?

Can explain Accel's metaphysical attack first?

He can suck the air of the area. He can also just mess with the vectors of his body

Oh right, what's the deal with that? Is Accel able to remotely control vectors or does he need to be in contact to mess with his body? And the air stuff, what's the range on it and Gojo should be able to keep his brain on without the need for air for a couple seconds through reversed cursed technique.

Those are normal humans not Extraordinary geniuses like Accelerator

Yeah ik, so quantify how much info Accel can intake and still be active.

Accelerator isn't the one performing the calculations if it changes anything. The Misaka Network does.

Is that inside of him or aiding his brain to process info?

 

[Doggo]

Accelerator isn't the one performing the calculations if it changes anything. The Misaka Network does.

That doesn't really change anything tho

 

[Aseka]

Accelerator isn't the one performing the calculations if it changes anything. The Misaka Network does.

Even better, or not?