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Accelerator vs JoJo

GreatestSin

GreatestSin

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one vs one,

how far can Accelerator come before getting defeated?

scenario 1: stand comes from spiritual energy, and via verse-equiv we will assume that he can reflect them

scenario 2: accel can see stand but can interact with them as much as other stand-users, simply think of it as a accelerator who doesnt have reflction if a stand attacks (even if it is star platinum with punches)...

and for each scenario 2 rounds:

R1: without choker

R2: with choker

bloodlusted, everyone wants to kill ^_^
 
That's not really how it works. Accel's shield is automatic but has to follow the law of physics in some regards. Hence, speeds of more than 2 x FTL (Silver Chariot being 76 or something times FTL) just go straight through anyways. Unless he is in angel form, he can't win against any stand scaled to Silver Chariot. In Angel Form, he probably can go through the high tiers until he meets a stand with BS hax that is scaled to Silver Chariot or alternatively Dio himself (Dio is sort of strange because I'm actually not sure if Accel can stop the time stop, considering that for some reason magnetism still works under Dio's time stop).
 
wow, i read the jojo mangas but they never seemed that impressive to me, exspeically silver chariot :O

either way, if that is the case than forget what i said, accel can reflect stands and se them,

a one on one, how far can he go with this battle?
 
But he can't reflect FTL+ stands. If you're giving him that power this isn't really a fair battle.
 
i dont really give accel a power i simply allow him to see and battle agaisnt the "ones who have superpowers" in the jojo verse, the human who control the stands are normal humans and if accel cant see the stand than i think this would be useless :(
 
I don't think that Accel can't see stands I just think that ignoring FTL speeds is not a fair handicap when it comes to Accel. Anyone continent level or below who is FTL doesn't have fair matches with Accel when speed is equalized. That's just how his power works.
 
GreatestSin said:
wow, i read the jojo mangas but they never seemed that impressive to me, exspeically silver chariot :O
either way, if that is the case than forget what i said, accel can reflect stands and se them,

a one on one, how far can he go with this battle?
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They actually are pretty impressive with guys like giorno that can reset any action to zero,pucci who can accelerate time towards infinity,jhonny who once his stand hits you wont stop even if you escape to another parallel world etc.Accelerator cant take the top tiers.
 
^than by whichi person would he stop?

@Alakabamm

im not ignoring them, they are included of course, this is a one on one with each Jojo-character, even the ones from Part 1 and 2 (and hamon is a unknown energy) ^_^
 
I dunno why time stop is a factor. Accelerator's barrier is automatic. Dio's time stop didn't erase Joseph's hamon barrier - so Dio and Jotaro would both pulp themselves on Accelerator's barrier.
 
Well think about it in this way. Base Accel has light speed reflection. Apparently his abilities are based on his calculation speeds. His ability is at the speed of light. However dark winged accelerator has his wings make his calculations for him giving him an incredible boost in calculation ability. Thus with Dark Wings he's ability to reflect is faster than light to what degree is unknown. If we take Angel Wings which are quite a lot superior to dark wings, he's ability to reflect is much faster than light.

Since both faster than light and time stop both break the laws of physics, we can think that passive faster than light by an unknown but probably large amount would actually work in a time stop.

There's also the fac that Accelerator has an Angel Form, and is able to use a Godly source of magic called Telesma. He should be on Par with Gabriel at the very least in his Angel Form as he managed to pretty much defeat her at 50% power in base form. (With some help from Kazikiri but he actually is more powerful than Kazikiri in base form).

Accelerator in Angel Form uses powers that cannot be explained by the laws of physics (though they may be explained by the laws of magic), and thus is probably just a step or two below what it takes to become a "Magic God'.

It's entirely possible that none of the lower tier JoJo hax would work on Accel for that case including time stop or time fastforward.

Also this may sound like a stupid argument, but string theory is made from 11 dimensions. Espers who can teleport can use those theories to teleport. Accelerator can block espers who try to teleport things into him because teleportation still has vectors in higher dimensions.

Thus time being the 4th dimension may entirely be reflected by Accelerator due to it actually having a vector "forward/backward".

Now no one in index could control time (at least not directly, Othinius can rewrite the universe but that's besides the point). But if we expand Accelerator's immunity to teleportation type attacks, due to 11 dimensional vectors, he may also be immune to time attacks which represent the 4th dimension.
 
I don't think Dio's time stops are the problem, again. It is FTL+ attacks. Yes, Dark Wing Accel and WW Accel get a boost on their reflective ability. Do we know how significant this boost is in terms of speed? Not really. So we can't entertain that type of argument, since this wiki goes by feats and scaling only. Hence, by this wiki's guidelines, Accel loses to Hax+FTL+ in WW form. Again, we don't know if a) hax effects white wings b) white wings has a shield seriously faster than light.

I certainly think it's plausible that Accel can win this once his abilities get explained more but not for right now.
 
@Alakabamm accel isnt winning anything unless he is above casuality anything he would do to giorno would be turn to zero his shields wont do anything he could turn them to zero and then turn accels death to zero thereby having him die over and over forever.And then there is pucci which will accelerate time till the universe ends unless accels shields can tank the universe exploding he isnt winning the top tiers are too much.
 
Who put Accel against tier 2s? If it's tier 2s you should have put Othinius or other Magic Gods. But we already saw where that went lol.

We already had a long heated discussion about Index Vs JoJo, it was undecided because Aiwass's tier is unknown even though it's hinted she's above the Magic Gods. Also Novel Kars was slightly unknown because he was At least High 2-A as oppose to absolutely. Probably couldn't give him low 1-C rating but they weren't satisfied with High 2-A. Either way the thread got nowhere because neither side refused to give in. Basically the argument boiled down to how much At least is. Without Novel Kars, Index Stomps.

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/196979
 
Celestial Pegasus said:
@Alakabamm accel isnt winning anything unless he is above casuality anything he would do to giorno would be turn to zero his shields wont do anything he could turn them to zero and then turn accels death to zero thereby having him die over and over forever.And then there is pucci which will accelerate time till the universe ends unless accels shields can tank the universe exploding he isnt winning the top tiers are too much.
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????? I didn't mean Giorno. Besides, if EoS Accel does something crazy like beat a Magic God, then he would be able to anyways.
 
EoS accel is probably above magic god TBH lol. Aleister called him his main plan and he took down magic gods pretty easily, like 8 of them at least by himself (using super op spells, DonTalk said he tricked them, but TBH it's more like he made a well planned attack to take down 8 High Tier 2-A characters at once.

Basically if Accel is called the Main Plan by Aleister who pretty much wants to destroy magic (including the magic gods who wield like 99.999% of all magic), he could probably do something that would put him at a level higher than the magic gods.
 
Aurasuke said:
EoS accel is probably above magic god TBH lol. Aleister called him his main plan and he took down magic gods pretty easily, like 8 of them at least by himself (using super op spells, DonTalk said he tricked them, but TBH it's more like he made a well planned attack to take down 8 High Tier 2-A characters at once.
Basically if Accel is called the Main Plan by Aleister who pretty much wants to destroy magic (including the magic gods who wield like 99.999% of all magic), he could probably do something that would put him at a level higher than the magic gods.
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Accel isnt magic god level not even close from what i heard they nerfed themselves infinitely just to enter the universe and then were nerfed even more again by aleister and still could mess up the universe.
 
He didn't really nearly die, he got a third of his body blown away, but what he did was he was able to observe them and create spells that would work well agains their type of magic. High Priest was essentially a wandering Budda, and after Aleister came in for his second visit, he hijacked the spell of another magic god and made it even more potent effectively rendering High 2-A characters to about 3-A characters at max (questionable if all the weakened magic gods could, it was stated they could change the universe once or destroy the world but lack the ability to recreate it).

Then Aleister literally had his Dog (Kirihara Noukan) who was literally a species of golden retriver, fire a super drill at High Priest who had merged with a comet and was traveling at Mach 20 to obliterate Academy City.

Basically Aleister collected data from them, and then weakened then, and killed him with his dog.

Of course he only killed High Priest because it was more personal (Apparently he had something to do with he's daughter's death, the high priest tried to apologize before he died but wasn't given enough time).

The other weakened gods were defeated by this guy named World Rejecter (basically some random new guy who can reject anything without touching it, more OP than imagine breaker by far).
 
Celestial Pegasus said:
Aurasuke said:
EoS accel is probably above magic god TBH lol. Aleister called him his main plan and he took down magic gods pretty easily, like 8 of them at least by himself (using super op spells, DonTalk said he tricked them, but TBH it's more like he made a well planned attack to take down 8 High Tier 2-A characters at once.
Basically if Accel is called the Main Plan by Aleister who pretty much wants to destroy magic (including the magic gods who wield like 99.999% of all magic), he could probably do something that would put him at a level higher than the magic gods.
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Accel isnt magic god level not even close from what i heard they nerfed themselves infinitely just to enter the universe and then were nerfed even more again by aleister and still could mess up the universe.
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No, Accel isn't lol, he was speculating on end of series accelerator. Also read paragraph above to see the reasoning behind that.
 
@Aurasuke i just dont see accel even coming close to magic gods even end of series when they had to infinetely divide their power just to enter the universe.
 
Aleister was the one who destroyed the world that they were in forcing them to come to the real world. He destroyed the hidden world which was able to contain their infinite power.

Aleister also pretty much weakened at least 8 magic gods where he let his enemies (the church) kill them with world rejecter.

Aleister says Accelerator is his "Main Plan, and Kakine is his "Spare Plane" which is why it's speculated accelerator may probably surpass the magic gods.
 
Aurasuke said:
Aleister was the one who destroyed the world that they were in forcing them to come to the real world. He destroyed the hidden world which was able to contain their infinite power.
Aleister also pretty much weakened at least 8 magic gods where he let his enemies (the church) kill them with world rejecter.

Aleister says Accelerator is his "Main Plan, and Kakine is his "Spare Plane" which is why it's speculated accelerator may probably surpass the magic gods.
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Well we will see i doubt it but if it happens it happens
 
Accelerator has knowledge? And stands have a limited range, silver chariot may have speed of 76c but he has a range of 5 meters(if i'm not mistaken), the users are just peak human.
 
Why Diavolo? Diavolo can't hit anyone in his time skip space. Even if he was an inch from Accel's skin, the barrier still works.

Edit: Wait, nvm, I see that King Crimson is FTL
 
Let's see, Jojos that Accel can't take:

Dio, Diavolo, Pucci, Giorno, Funny Valentine

He can take the rest with Knowledge + Wings I think
 
Usually you do verse equalizations to make things fair. I don't think FV can kill Accel but Accel can't kill FV either.
 
^doent need FV in "between two spaces" in order to let his ability transport him away?

if accelerator has knoweldge shouldnt he b able to kill FV before he can do anything? (and im not sure if FV could simply bring another accelerator from another universe, afterall they should be idenical in power and as far as i know D4C isnt FTL :I )

btw, alkabamm, this is only with choker-accelerator and pre-headshot-accelerator, the wings are to unknown in order to make a fight with them :( (at least it has to little feats for us to know its limits) ^_^
 
If this is just base Accel, then he has no significant speed feats because the high hypersonic one is for dark wing. He just loses to really fast opponents with FTL stands and the ones I mentioned above.
 
@Alakabamm Accel can kill Pucci,MiH starts at subsonic. And even if accelerator can't deflect Dio and Diavolo he still has continental durability.
 
^^this is unknown in base, he showed the durability while having white wings and a halo :(

EDIT: alakabamm already said it :(
 
^i know, im the OP XD

but i also said that they fight once with and once without choker ^_^ the wings are to much of a unknown factor, we saw how many feats of them 6? 8? including rensas maybe 11 times or so, this is way to little :(

oh yeah, i forgot, would it change if choker-accel fights? he has his timelimit and can be messed up if strogn magnetism is around or if someone intereferes with his wavelengths :)
 
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