Accelerator vs Five level 5s and Touma Kamijou

[Aurasuke]

We all know that Touma had defeated accelerator, but we all know how that ended up happening. The huge amount of plot convienience was mose likely what happened.

However with PIS turned off what would happen if Accelerator fought Touma, Misaka, Kakine (post revival), Gunha, Misaki and Mugino?

Misaka is in level 6 form.

Battle takes place in Academy City, everyone is 100m apart, except Misaki who is 10km away and allowed to use other people to help her in this battle within Academy City.

Accelerator is not allow to borrow the Earth's Energy.

Accelerator knows Touma's ability.

You may make arguments of in character and bloodlusted.

Round 1

Base Accelerator

Round 2

Dark Winged Accelerator

Round 3

Angel Accelerator

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[Alakabamm]

Rounds 1 and 2: Accelerator stomps them all extremely hard and Kakine only survive by virtue of being a pest. Accelerator cannot permanently kill him once he really gets started so it's technically a draw because Dark Matter doesn't affect Accel anymore either.

Round 3: Accel might be able to kill Kakine with divinity, as Othinus managed to.

 

[Aurasuke]

Lol a pest

Interesting, you don't think they could somehow pull off a combination attack and get Touma to negate Accelerator's reflecton for the slightest moment allowing Misaki to control him? This is level 6 Misaka we're talking about combined with 5 level fives (I would have put 6 but the number 6 has never really had his powers shown).

 

[Alakabamm]

Accelerator carries a gun these days and also can just throw an entire building at him. Plus Accel is not gonna let him close. Unless we're going with those dumb dragon things but those are unquantifiable.

 

[Aurasuke]

Perhaps, but if the five level fives are teaming up, they could always have Gunha tank those attacks. If accelerator was to throw a building Misaka level 6 could just disintergrate it before it hit Touma. If Gunha acted as Touma's body guard and somehow managed to get imagine breaker close enough they may be able to hit accelerator.

Alternatively you could always just tear off Touma's arm and have Gunha hit accelerator with it lol but that sounds kind of...yeah...

But it grows back somehow so Touma should be fine somehow lol.

There isn't a hundred percent chance he'll be able to hit Accelerator even if he tore off his arm. But if Level 6 Misaka is helping shoot down any ranged attacks accelerator throws at him, it may buy him enough time to get close enough.

Of course it would be a lot harder to do this with angel accelerator or dark winged accelerator. Mabye Gunha can use imagine breaker as a sword of weapon?

 

[NotEvenHuman]

Rounds 1 and 2: Accelerator stomps them all extremely hard and Kakine only survive by virtue of being a pest. Accelerator cannot permanently kill him once he really gets started so it's technically a draw because Dark Matter doesn't affect Accel anymore either.
Round 3: Accel might be able to kill Kakine with divinity, as Othinus managed to.

This.

 

[Aurasuke]

Very well that's 2 votes for accelerator then lol.

 

[ZERO7772]

well this is interesting

but before i start this post revival kakine right ? does kakine allowed to use awakened ?because awakened kakine alone can fight black wingsas

for the battle :

1- accel stomp all of them except kakine and taking how hax kakine is after the revival i give it to kakine base accel can't handle kakine after the revival kakine doesn't actually have limite as he is no longer a human while accel main weakness is the time limite for his power if neither of them can kill each other then kakine just have to wait until accel battery is done or until his human body can't keep

2-no much different from the first round accel stomp all and stop on kakine and i don't believe the black wings give much more advantage

3-dunno

 

[ZERO7772]

Now i think about it accel can only reflect the vector the he understandso why can't gunha just one shout with "amazing punch " ?

as accel stand there thinking that his barrier will reflect it

that why kakine kicked his ass in the beginning of their battle LOL

 

[GreatestSin]

However with PIS turned off what would happen if Accelerator fought Touma, Misaka, Kakine (post revival), Gunha, Misaki and Mugino?

accelerator wins in all rounds, he should also be way faster than the others can percieve, in his first battle with Misaka #1 he seemingly teleported but in reality moved so fast that Misaka-clones eyes wasnt able to keep up with him...

EDIT: ah, this is dark matter kakine right?

than it is R1: kakine (other die), accel will get exhausted at some point and even if eh doesnt need choker he would be finished if kakine has enough time to change his light-particle-beam-attack again and again...

R2: dark wings accel wins, he should be able to desintegrate kakine but it can go either way, the others are non-factors

R3: the same as in R2 but accelerators chances should be higher (mostlikely due to conscious/subconscious use of "inexplicable force") ^_^

 

[ZERO7772]

touma begin here is kinda =____=

 

[ZERO7772]

well as expect the main problem here is kakine

putting the other level 5 is kinda pointless

the only one who can fight accel is kakine and the only one who can fight kakine is accel

since they are on a completely different level from the rest of the group

 

[LordAizenSama]

Now i think about it accel can only reflect the vector the he understandso why can't gunha just one shout with "amazing punch " ?
as accel stand there thinking that his barrier will reflect it

that why kakine kicked his ass in the beginning of their battle LOL

gunha was punching, Kakine was using something that didn't exist under the previous laws of physics, until Accelerator factored it into his ability, theres a big difference there. no way will a punch work.

as for this Fight

Base Form PreHeadshot: Tie He Murderstomps all the irrelevant level 5's,and Touma, leaving only Kakine, and possibly Gunha depending on how smart he plays it.Kakine can give him some issues before he gains knowledge of his power, like in the Novels. and then neither will be able to hurt eachother.

Base Form Post Headshot:Loss Same as the above, except Accelerator will run out of time dealing with Kakine's Bs

Darkwings: Probably win this is a hard one, Accelerator can easily manipulate vectors from a distance, and his wings disintergrate Matter, if he can get a hold of/Target Kakine fast enough he will win, otherwise hes just going to hang around regenerating and multiplying, make it another likely draw

WhiteWings/Angel Form: Should wi, Likely too fast for everyone here, and should be able to outreact Kakine, manipulate vectors from a distance and control him, and rip him to pieces on such a level that he cannot regenerate.

on a sidenote I love how all these matches, it is come down to essentially Meatshields+Kakine vs Accelerator, lol.

 

[ZERO7772]

on a sidenote I love how all these matches, it is come down to essentially Meatshields+Kakine vs Accelerator, lol.


LOL told you so

 

[Alakabamm]

"because awakened kakine alone can fight black wings accel" --> no, this is untrue. In the Novel, Accel had already basically defeated Kakine without his black wings even when Kakine had awakened. When he woke up his black wings, it became a murderstomp.

Black wings Accel >>> Accel >> Awakened Kakine >> Kakine

 

[LordAizenSama]

Accelerator defeated kakine after he got his black wings, not before it. Kakine only got his wings after watching accelerator do his

 

[Alakabamm]

Yes but both Kakine and Accel's wings are made of Dark Matter, which Accel was perfectly capable of controlling before he killed Kakine. That's why he should still be stronger.

 

[LordAizenSama]

Well Winged Kakine is featless, who knows what he could do. probably right tho if its the same nature as his original dark matter

 

[Aurasuke]

Lol, interesting how not one person thinks that Touma could win even though he beat Accelerator three times (though mostly due to PIS).

 

[LordAizenSama]

well without PIS one stomp like this dropping him into the abyss will be the end of him.

 

[LazyHunter]

Lol, interesting how not one person thinks that Touma could win even though he beat Accelerator three times (though mostly due to PIS).

Isn't it obvious? Anyone that has actually read the novels knows that Touma's two victories over Accel were because of the situation and status of the characters at that moment, not because he was stronger than him like some Touma fanboys say or by plot armor or whatever term Accel fanboys want to use (you would think that because of Kamachi's style Index fans would be used to look beyond raw stats for in-universe matches, but a lot of people seem to have a problem doing it with Accel). Touma beats Accel pre-headshot and berserker dark wing Accel, post-headshot Accel that keeps his cool is too strong for him.

 

[Aurasuke]

well technically accel did lose to Touma in angel form as well, but it was also hinted he may have done it on purpose to prevent the other level 5s from coming lol.

 

[LazyHunter]

well technically accel did lose to Touma in angel form as well, but it was also hinted he may have done it on purpose to prevent the other level 5s from coming lol.

Nah, the novel ouright tells you Accel took a dive in Denmark to try and help Touma. Remember how in that same fight Accel says something to the effect of "I'm not as big of a selfless hero like you to save anyone who need help, so I'm only gonna bother looking after the people in my cell phone's memory"? Touma is one of those people; he, Accel and Hamazura exchanged addresses in NT2. Accel is just too tsundere to be honest with his feelings.

 

[Aurasuke]

lol ahahah tsundere, but doesn't accel already have last order and Misaka worst? he doesn't need touma too does he?

 

[LordAizenSama]

^Whoa, how did I not pick that up about the Cell Phones, Genius!

 

[Aurasuke]

lol ahahha that's funny^

 

[LazyHunter]

lol ahahah tsundere, but doesn't accel already have last order and Misaka worst? he doesn't need touma too does he?

It's more or less this kind of situation since Accel is a bit of a Touma fanboy that sees him as the ideal hero, and even tried copying him and using his right hand to stop attacks in World War III against the Russian magicians only to remark that it didn't suit him.

Could be worst for Touma. Accel could be like Thor and say things like: "You are not shining in the slightest right now." "You're so amazing! You withstood my first attack without destroying anything!!"; "I'm all fired up. My engine has been running full-throttle ever since I first heard about you."; "Let me enjoy this, baby." or call Touma "Kamijou-chan". XD

 

[Aurasuke]

LOL that's very deductive of you. I wish I found that about accelerator. I alaways knew he was holding back the first time against him.