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That's 100% a leading question, shouldn't be used
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About the Omnitrix faile safe speed (downgrade)
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That's 100% a leading question, shouldn't be used
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He actually gave him all the options so not really. Also Duncan’s answer was very elaborate lol, man literally went out of his way to tie it to the lore.
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Uh... I'd be neutral regarding it for now. Will read the stuff later and reply as per.
The question may seems leading but tbh, question is the lowest or infact it is far downplay if anything from how much has been shown in the verse. About the answer, it is quite true and has been evident in the show for 70% part, so doubt it is wrong.
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The Omnitrix can actively keep Kevin (and Ben) transformed (and transform) when one is in the Null Void and the other is on earth. Statistically speaking there is a 100% chance that they are an infinite distance apart. This thread can be closed 
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Oh and Albedo’s watch and the Omnitrix are linked beyond space and time (allowing Albedo to transform), that’s probably useful as well if you include the comics or smth.
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Isn't it's range rather than speed?The Omnitrix can actively keep Kevin (and Ben) transformed (and transform) when one is in the Null Void and the other is on earth. Statistically speaking there is a 100% chance that they are an infinite distance apart.This thread can be closed
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Action Pack shows that the failsafe activates right before Ben gets hit.I mean logically... Ben was already engulfed by bigbang explosion before the fail safe could kick in and must have been dead. How is that possible for omnitrix to save ben at that moment?Without having immeasurable speed I mean
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It needs to send data and Omni-energy at infinite speed
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Thread can be closed fr.
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This is a better argument if legit.
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I could say that what Duncan says makes more sense, the omnitrix is a computer (in fact, in a movie it literally has a computer universe inside) and it can process exaggerated levels of information, so as soon as the failsafe detects a danger, even if It is faster than Ben's reaction, it will save him.
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, how good are you at calcing things?
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i don't know,the born of the universe is not a explosion(sarcasm)
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Not what I meant, I was asking for something unrelated. But sure I’ll provide proof that the BIG BANG is an explosion.
ASTRONOMY
- the rapid expansion of matter from a state of extremely high density and temperature which according to current cosmological theories marked the origin of the universe
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It fits the definition given, the Contumelia literally say “upcoming release of energy”
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he elaborated on it, he was explaining the lore, wouldn't that make it valid?
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Yet ben aliens can still hold it physically....
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feedback can hold it because, holding and controlling energy is what he does, plus ben had an alien x arm during that time
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You don’t want to know the hax I give them for that, this is not the point though. Also one could just argue they very briefly interact with the matter at best. Matter and energy are 2 sides of the same coin anyways, especially in the context of the Big Bang.
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It seems to have been accepted and quite late now but I have to disagree for green's reason.
It is legit. W/O omni energy, DNA alteration is impossible to transform and the fact that regardless of where omnitrix is, it can transform the one linked with it beyond all boundaries (even outside the multiverse).
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Kevin turned back to human when the Omnitrix blew up.
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Honestly.... after rewatching the episode the explosion started to expand immediately after Ben finished his sentence so I guess it's not really an anti feat.....
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I’m 99.9% sure this is EXACTLY the kind of social media answer we’d outright ban all together for it being a battle boarding related question.
Seriously, no offense, but what is it with this consistent tactic of using a huge influx of social media answers to get feats rather than going by the primary material??
I agree with the downgrade btw.
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ye but duncan gave evidence from the show
its not like hes saying something like ben being high outerversal or some shit which is completely wrong
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this is not, he elaborated and explained an aspect of the show, this nowhere close to the answers we don't accept, also there is this
the said antifeat listed in the op doesn't really exist
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That still doesn’t change my overall complaint. When it comes to this verse, social media answers consistently get brought up in attempts at revising its statistics.
BTW, I vaguely remember Zamasu gave another argument against infinite speed too now that this makes me think about that. A different one from the OP though.
BTW, I vaguely remember Zamasu gave another argument against infinite speed too now that this makes me think about that. A different one from the OP though.
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so? most of the ones used follow the rules, this one in particular is very usable per our standards, since it isn't a simple one worded question, but rather a very detailed one explaining a plot point of the show
what is it?
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It is anything but not a anti feat. The very point ben started talking when explosion had already started makes it one, being this much near to bigbang and it's radiation and light. He should have been dead. And explosion already started to expand before ben could began to talk. So it is reaction speed far beyond a human.
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honestly the twitter statement wouldn't make sense if it contradicted what the show said but it doesn't so
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Yeah the explosion actually happened right after Ben finished his sentence
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so, does this thread even have a point anymore? wasn't this the only thing supporting the downgrade? just curious
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I agree with the downgrade but you didn't proposed what would be the Omnitrix's speed now that its infinite value would disappear, i'd suggest we can use this for the Omnitrix speed now, since this was being used before it got inf speed.
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MFTL+ or at least ninety-seven quadrillion eight hundred twenty-eight trillion six hundred billion times SoL. At most fifty-five duodecillion times SoL.
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i mean, the annihilargh is infinite in speed, so the calc doesn't make sense anymore, besides it seens that the point brought in the op was shown to not be true.....but the very op....huh:I agree with the downgrade but you didn't proposed what would be the Omnitrix's speed now that its infinite value would disappear, i'd suggest we can use this for the Omnitrix speed now, since this was being used before it got inf speed.
MFTL+ or at least ninety-seven quadrillion eight hundred twenty-eight trillion six hundred billion times SoL. At most fifty-five duodecillion times SoL.Ben 10 - Omnitrix Reacts to Annihilargh
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The OP is pretty was..... And green literally gave a reason for this thread to be closed.I agree with the downgrade but you didn't proposed what would be the Omnitrix's speed now that its infinite value would disappear, i'd suggest we can use this for the Omnitrix speed now, since this was being used before it got inf speed.
MFTL+ or at least ninety-seven quadrillion eight hundred twenty-eight trillion six hundred billion times SoL. At most fifty-five duodecillion times SoL.Ben 10 - Omnitrix Reacts to Annihilargh
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