About Speed & Universal Travel

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

I want to ask because a verse I am working on has a feat that can be potentially far higher if what im thinking turns out to be fine to apply.

Where do we stand when it comes to characters being fast enough to travel to other universes? The answers that i've been given about this seem to be at odds with each other. One one hand, I hear this is only dimensional travel and doesn't amount to being a speed feat. On the other hand, Im also told that this can be accepted as a speed feat and would be [insert here] x FTL speed.

So which is moreso the case? Even with case by case basis being a clear given, I'd still like to know our general stance on this.

 

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[Sera_EX]

Depends on the cosmology. For example if the universes are connected to each other or separate.

It could be dimensional travel or if done through pure physical means, MFTL+ to immeasurable.

Archie Sonic crossed the multiverse and that's rated as an absurdly high MFTL+ feat because he did so by running. It's only MFTL+ because he traveled the cosmic interstate which "physically" connects zones.

If time-space was crossed physically, without teleporting or any such power, you may be looking at an immeasurable speed feat.

It's like how if you can travel through time you have Time Travel, but if you explicitly do so by running, you have immeasurable speed.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Hmm okay then. So what if someone had sent an energy beam that was able to traverse across universes to reach [insert here location]? Woudld that be a speed feat (obviously just attack speed if that)?

 

[Wokistan]

This thing depends on the verse but I don't think moving to other universes with speed wuld be immeasurable if the guy is clearly not immeasurable at other times, it could support such a rating but would almost certainly be contradictory/outlier on its own

 

[LordGriffin1000]

If the universes are physically connected then yeah, it would be a speed feat. Though without a timeframe you won't get a solid good rating. If they are seperate then I couldn't really say. It could be both a feat and space manipulation since the beam would need to travel from the middle of your universe to it's end then break through the space barrier and enter in the next universe.

As stated above it's based on the verse and how it treats it.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

For a timeframe, lets say 7 seconds or so to be hypothetical. And for the universe you are traveling to/sending an attack to, there are other universes in between.

How crazy fast would this be at first glance?

 

[Wokistan]

how large are those universes

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Same as ours.

 

[Wokistan]

1 observable universe is 8.8 × 10^26m

You said universes in between so i'll use distance to cross 2, 1.76×10^27m

1.76×10^27/7=2.5142857143×10^26 m/s which is 8.380952381×10^17 times SoL, apparently

 

[Andytrenom]

Pretty sure Dragon Ball and Kirby are/were rated according to such feats

 

[Eficiente]

That's the case for Kirby, yes. I'll point out that in this calc I used the diameter of the observable universe for going from one place in one universe into the very same place in another universe.

Maybe we should have a page stating some rules for this? Like what discance use under what circumstances.

 

[Phoenix821]

This calc is similar.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Darkanine/Bakugan:_Drago_is_insane

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

It depends on context and cosmology of the verse. If it's Quilted Multiverse where they same universes are contained within the same timeline or in the same body of space; and if it's finite sized, it would be Massively FTL+ as mentioned above.

If their different timelines or space-time continuums, then it's more complex but it depends on context. Usually it's in the Infinite/Immeasurable speed assuming them moved via sheer speed without teleportation or portals. Crossing infinite spaces would be Infinite, but literally running through Space-Time would be Immeasurable. But do keep in mind that traveling from one space-time to the other can often be an outlier. But in general, traveling to other universes without context is more range via dimensional travel rather than speed.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

I don't think there's any sort of RL metric in concrete or even hypothetical science to attach a speed needed to go to alternate universes, so I'd just call it Dimensional Travel.

If the verse itself gives a speed "he's going faster than the speed of light!" or "the ship has reached infinite speed!" then we can use that speed, but I don't see any basis for us to attach a speed to it arbitraily if the question can't be answered IRL.

I mean, we do attach values to stuff arbitraily but it's something I'd prefer not doing excessively.

Cosmology is another issue entirely, I think; as obviously that's a verse-to-verse thing.