About MWI, and the indications needed for L1C...

[Xdsagecat]

Does just mwi being shown qualify for l1c cosmology? I thought the expressed uncountable set of timelines was enough for the qualification, but I've heard that other proof is also needed, something along a higher axis of time?

 

[Xdsagecat]

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[MaskedDragon908]

Does just mwi being shown qualify for l1c cosmology? I thought the expressed uncountable set of timelines was enough for the qualification, but I've heard that other proof is also needed, something along a higher axis of time?

If you can prove MWI, then that should be sufficient evidence for Low 1-C. An uncountable infinity of universes would occupy a 5-D container, as they would be unable to co-exist if it was solely a 4-dimensional cosmology.

A higher axis of time is only required if you wish to attain Low 1-C through a second temporal dimension.
A second temporal dimension would be infinite, allowing an uncountable infinity of timelines to co-exist at once, similarly to MWI.

 

[Xdsagecat]

If you can prove MWI, then that should be sufficient evidence for Low 1-C. An uncountable infinity of universes would occupy a 5-D container, as they would be unable to co-exist if it was solely a 4-dimensional cosmology.

A higher axis of time is only required if you wish to attain Low 1-C through a second temporal dimension.
A second temporal dimension would be infinite, allowing an uncountable infinity of timelines to co-exist at once, similarly to MWI.

How does a second temporal dimension being shown infer an uncountable infinite timelines? Never really understood that aspect

 

[MaskedDragon908]

How does a second temporal dimension being shown infer an uncountable infinite timelines? Never really understood that aspect

A second temporal dimension being shown doesn't automatically infer an uncountable infinite number of timelines.
It just has the capacity, or size, to hold that many.
Temporal dimensions are generally assumed to be infinite; time doesn't have a defined starting or stopping point.
To quote the FAQ,

So, for a typical universe, it is a 3-A or three-dimensional structure of significant size collected as an uncountable infinite number of static snapshots through its time axis, making the space-time of the cosmology Low 2-C to fit all the possible universe iterations (3D+1). By having a second axis going in a perpendicular direction, this requires the space-time of the cosmology to have a fifth-dimensional axis to capture the "snapshots" that generate a fourth-dimensional axis (3D+2)

There are some disqualifiers that may prove a temporal dimension is not infinite, but that is somewhat atypical.

Low 1-C requires an infinite 5-dimensional container.
MWI Theory is necessary to prove a 5-D spatial axis is infinite because space is not assumed to be infinite.
You are proving that a 5-D spatial axis of infinite size must exist due to the size of the cosmology necessitating it.

 

[Xdsagecat]

A second temporal dimension being shown doesn't automatically infer an uncountable infinite number of timelines.
It just has the capacity, or size, to hold that many.
Temporal dimensions are generally assumed to be infinite; time doesn't have a defined starting or stopping point.
To quote the FAQ,

There are some disqualifiers that may prove a temporal dimension is not infinite, but that is somewhat atypical.

Low 1-C requires an infinite 5-dimensional container.
MWI Theory is necessary to prove a 5-D spatial axis is infinite because space is not assumed to be infinite.
You are proving that a 5-D spatial axis of infinite size must exist due to the size of the cosmology necessitating it.

I'm sensing there's something fundamental im misunderstanding.

I always thought that mwi was that every moment in time across a universe is creating an infinite amount of universes with those doing the same thing and the total amount of universes in the end being uncountable.

If the above is somewhat correct, then I think my confused stems from non mwi stuff.

 

[MaskedDragon908]

I always thought that mwi was that every moment in time across a universe is creating an infinite amount of universes with those doing the same thing and the total amount of universes in the end being uncountable.

If the above is somewhat correct, then I think my confused stems from non mwi stuff.

You are correct. MWI implies that all possible outcomes of quantum measurements come to fruition as their own universes.

An infinite 4-D container can hold an infinite amount of universes. This would be 2-A.
However, MWI implies an uncountable infinite amount of universes, which cannot be contained in an infinite 4-D container.
Therefore, an infinite 5-D container must exist that can hold all these universes.

Does this help, or is your confusion related to something else?

 

[Xdsagecat]

You are correct. MWI implies that all possible outcomes of quantum measurements come to fruition as their own universes.

An infinite 4-D container can hold an infinite amount of universes. This would be 2-A.
However, MWI implies an uncountable infinite amount of universes, which cannot be contained in an infinite 4-D container.
Therefore, an infinite 5-D container must exist that can hold all these universes.

Does this help, or is your confusion related to something else?

Thanks, this helps a lot. My only question is regarding how non mwi cosmology works, with the differences between timelines and universes and how it's structured