About Kirin speed

[M3X_2.0]

Hi everyone. I was discussing with TataHakai a couple of days ago about Kirin speed. I used the Method 2 type of scaling, but Tata disagreed because it was before the storm and we can't see the storm, but I think this is a lowball.

TataHakai suggested to use an average size of this cloud (Kirin is a Cumulonimbus, it was stated) and the result using 200m, 4000, 12000m is 5400m or 5.4km

What do you guys think about?

 

[TataHakai]

21,000 meters is an EXTREME high end so i think just using the first 3 figures might be better

 

[M3X_2.0]

Edited

 

[TataHakai]

Using the first 3 figures gives us an average of 16200/3 = 5400 meters

This is much more consistent with altitudes at which lightning forms, and isn't lowballed to 1000 meters which would put it below the uchiha hideout's height if i recall correctly.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Yeah, Uchiha hideout is 1200m. 1000m makes no sense since the storm was higher than the hideout

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

What would the kirin speed be using this new height?

 

[M3X_2.0]

Mach 15800

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

That would be a healthy upgrade. Is there already a calc for it, or would there need to be a discussion for it?

 

[M3X_2.0]

We will discuss its height here now and then use what was accepted

 

[MostPowerfull]

The only thing I will say is that ... About the distance used to be from the average distance from the clouds I agree. But I'm also okay with using the standard Wikia assumption while I'm doing pretty well with 2000 ~ 4000m for Kirin.

 

[AstralKing7]

This is calc group discussion only right?? Let's not clog this place up anymore

 

[Damage3245]

Yeah, Uchiha hideout is 1200m. 1000m makes no sense since the storm was higher than the hideout

The Uchiha Hideout is about 611 m by other pixelscaling.

EDIT: Also, isn't the 12,000 m figure on the wikipedia page for the Peak of the Cumulonimbus cloud?

It says that the base is formed at 200 to 4,000 m.

 

[TataHakai]

Kep got it at 1276.7475 meters

 

[M3X_2.0]

Lol, what others pixelscaling have to do? They were not accepted and I am sure they will not

 

[AlphaXlr8]

I've pixel scaled the uchiha hideout before and got 1345.344m as its height

 

[Damage3245]

Okay, well that just means we have multiple versions of pixelscaling for it.

 

[AlphaXlr8]

The Uchiha Hideout is about 611 m by other pixelscaling.

EDIT: Also, isn't the 12,000 m figure on the wikipedia page for the Peak of the Cumulonimbus cloud?

It says that the base is formed at 200 to 4,000 m.

Yeah 12,000m is for the peak but seeing as there are more than one scalings(on and off site) putting the hideout at over 1km, 1km is indeed inappropriate for the cloud height. And I believe there were already calcs that put the cloud height as 2km right?

 

[Damage3245]

@AlphaXlr8; there are scaling putting the hideout above 1 km, and also scaling putting it at 600 m.

So 1 km cloud height isn't necessarily wrong.

 

[Omimi]

why are we all normal user commenting here its for Calc Group Discussio

so let them handle it otherwise there is no meaning in creating CGD

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Kep got one of my calcs debunked for the reason of storm heights starting below 1 km. Storm clouds don't start super high, they're just tall.

 

[TataHakai]

They're not but lightning forms in the upper ends of storm clouds, wouldn't that mean it needs to travel a further distance to hit the ground from when it forms?

 

[Damage3245]

Don't we typically calc the distance lightning travels from the bottom of a cloud rather then somewhere near the top?

If that's not the case, why include the 200 m to 4000 m range at all?

 

[AlphaXlr8]

Mach 15800

If this is later accepted, wouldn't this mean alot of other calcs or feats that were rejected or considered as outliers would need to be revised, as well as some databook statements e.g Ay's version 2 lightning armor being said to boost his speed to near sol, Madara being said to cut things at sol(this was brought up under light fang)

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Possibly.

 

[AstralKing7]

I thought this was calc group only tho???

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

What is being discussed now? I'm not sure.