About Dormammu Power Level

[Driger-God]

@Shivansh Garg

I consider the destroy the Otherworld High 2-A in worst case, the Other World includes all time and space of Omniverse , it is possible 1-B. But, Dormammu scale Odin, the cosmic balance is composite for equal force. Nightmare is comparable for your conceptual nature, and he can evolute.

 

[Driger-God]

And Infinity Gauntlet key need upgrade, in Thanos Annual, Thanos(avatar of IG) survived the multiversal destruction, the destruction kill all entities. Destroyed all concept of time and space.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

otherworld should be high 1-B likely 1-A. (for transcending the confined levels of time and space)

 

[Antvasima]

Stop quoting walls of text.

 

[Shivansh_Garg]

@Driger he wasn't going to destroy Otherworld was he? Also even if he was that wasn't his own power anyways

Yes, and Odin was serving as an avatar of Order while Dormammu was of Chaos right? That seems like the relationship between Thanos (avatar of Death) and Deadpool (avatar of Eternity)

Similarly Warlock and Thanos are equals and opposites (life and death) but we still know Thanos>>>Warlock in raw power

 

[Driger-God]

Warlock is not opposite force of Thanos, the opposite force of Thanos is Drax. And Drax in combat with Thanos, can defeat he.

Deadpool is avatar of comedy, he can defeat Thanos because Thanos has unbalanced the cosmic world killing the Eternity, and Death is above the Eternity, the entropy forces(Death and Oblivion) are much stronger than creation force(Eternity and Infinite). In this comics(Deadpool vs Thanos) Death don't want the end of Eternity. But Chaos not is entropy force, Dormammu talk about this.

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[Driger-God]

About Surtur "All of the fire of creation itself had been unleashed when I killed Surtur, mother." Surtur itself is all fire of creation. He can burning all creation for their essence.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

@Driger-God ... Interesting

@Ant Mephisto wouldn't scale to the Full / Power of a Living Cosmic Cube ( Which are consistently Higher-Dimensional ... Multiversal Eternity & Living Tribunal thought of a Living Cosmic Cube's power as "Infinite"... So they are even well respected by Multi-Abstracts... Especially Multi-Inbetweener who was scared of the Cosmic Cube's power. ) unless he's in his realm... So it honestly isn't that big of a assumption . It also scales to the Fear Lords since they explicitly are stated to be a threat to Kubik, a Living Cosmic Cube. BTW Franklin oneshots Mephisto a few issues after being compared to a Living Cosmic Cube

Living Cosmic Cubes are much different from a regular Cosmic Cube, because they have essentially access to their full power and they do not restraint. Such levels would only scale to the Living Cosmic Cubes, not the retricted ones ( Which I believe are 2-A ). So, only the Living Cosmic Cubes and those who scale to them would be upgraded... Not the non-sentient Cosmic Cubes, who are a heavily restricted Cosmic Cube.

[ Now remembers that Shaman Nate Grey does not have a key... I need to fix that. BTW it is not a amp, but rather him having access to his Full Power ]

 

[Antvasima]

Well, the In-Betweener case was due to Brian Bendis being completely clueless as usual. He even thought that the In-Betweener and the Stranger were only on par with the Elders of the Universe.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

... Really ? I see. That's... Quite something.

 

[Driger-God]

In-Betweener never scale with Elders of the Universe, in classic comics, In-Betweener forced the Death for kill the Elder.

In classic comics, In Betweener is much stronger than Death(In comics that he fight with Galactus) or Eternity.(In Doctor Strange v2)

In-Betweener can trapped Strange in different level of reality, and afirmate that this is a fraction of your power, he can affect all reality.

 

[Driger-God]

About In-Betweener power level is High 1-B

Your nature can walk the path between all worlds... All concepts.2, and he apart of all

He is a concept, as Eternity

The power of In-Betweener can trapped Strange between levels of reality, and this is small part of your power, he can affect all reality and fantasy.

He transcend Eternity power.

Scaling Celestial and Galactus

 

[Antvasima]

Well, we would have to have one statistic for the multiversal In-Betweener and one for the regular universal version.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Problem is the one that showed up when he first fought Classic Dr.Strange (Universal In-Betweener) had Tier 2 to Tier 1 statements of power in that very issue ... And had a Tier 2-1 feat again in another appearance of his Manifested Self (Important example: Creating a 16-D Universe and being used as a power source to create countless realities).

So the issue is where to draw the line for the Universal Abstracts, since they all have consistently extreme levels of power, despite "supposedly" being limited to merely low level 4-D.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I think that Matthew considered them 2-A, but maybe they are higher. We cannot handle everything at once though.

 

[Driger-God]

I believe that the In-Betweener in "Universal Form" is at least High 1-C or 1-B. He much stronger than Dormammu or Set. In classic comics, In-Betweener ever comment about the link with all concepts.