About BDE

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Apparently BDE type 1 grants type 1 acausality because its users are outside of time itself. My question is, how is this not type 4 acausality? Why do we assume being unbound by time only extends to the past, and not the present or future?

 

[azontr]

BDE = Big Dick Energy

Prolly because nobody cares enough about the ability to revise it

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

I care

If there's no good reason for it then I guess I'll ask for it to be changed.

 

[azontr]

Dear god, someone cares.

The winds of change are definitely blowing.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Wait, while I'm at it, why doesn't BDE grant immunity to space-time hax? You'd think lacking something would grant immunity to that thing, right? I'm pretty sure that's like the main basis we use for immunity.

 

[Vietthai96]

Because fiction, we have too many example of void beyond space-time still have cause and effect happening in it due to story progression, so it only grant Acausality 1 for consistency reason, well i can understand your reason since time also related to cause and effect but well......., with the recent Acausality type 5 revision, characters possibly can't even get type 4 now if they just beyond time only without context

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Because fiction, we have too many example of void beyond space-time still have cause and effect happening in it due to story progression, so it only grant Acausality 1 for consistency reason, well i can understand your reason since time also related to cause and effect but well......., with the recent Acausality type 5 revision, characters possibly can't even get type 4 now if they just beyond time only without context

This isn't about locations though, it's about characters. If a location is beyond cause/effect, yet individual characters are able to act in it just fine, we assume that that's a trait of the characters themselves and not an anti-feat for the void.

Besides, I don't think we'd treat a situation like that as anything more than an outlier or anti-feat. I think for characters who are genuinely outside the flow of time and don't have any notable anti-feats to disprove type 4, they should get type 4 by default.

 

[Vietthai96]

BDE 1 is just you lacking characteristic of time and space, the wiki now don't equate lacking time mean said character somehow operating under different cause and effect system anymore

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Well obviously we still do considering we grant type 1 acausality. If we accept that a BDE character is immune to changes in the past, why would they not be immune to changes in the future as well?