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So Lilith and Lucifer can be higher than 1A?
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A WoD Discussion thread
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High 1-A is tricky. I was more eluding there more than baseline 1-A. Though some context is needed for them perhaps how some Mages can control time and space and possibly exist beyond it, though that concept is tricky. The new system just doesn't fit in with WoD too well.
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Since I skimmed through after getting bored reading 20th Anniversary. I will have to cheat and use the system where I search for some random key words to skip to chapters. Unless Udlmaster would like to chime in here. 
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One doubt (stupid one but bear with me),
Can every supreme beings in fiction get Tier 0?
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Yes, as long as they fit some sort of monadic system.
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Can you please give me an example of this monadic system? I didn't understand many things ultima said.
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An absolute that underlies everything as fictional to it and holds no value to it. Essential Divinity is a contender for the tier.
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So how does a battle between other tier 0 characters works using this new system? Did ultima say anything about that?
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He did so indirectly. He only mentioned one example but feel free to ask him.
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Since the characters transcend fiction someone who votes in favor of one and someone who votes in favor of the other have a fistfight IRL to determine the winner
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Lilith and Lucifer become High 1-A, because they're in the upper tier of Gods (Greater Celestines)
Lucifer went quite broad and has power over Thaumiel, which is the equal and opposite to Jehovah's Keter
Likewise, Lilith is equals with Jehovah (as stated at many points in the lore).
Jehovah is the source of Yahweh, a lower aspect of him which embodies the Tree of Life and the Unity of God's masculine aspects, in essence, Jehovah is his own Monad (and thus a false one)
Likewise, the Triat would be High 1-A, they are just all of existence in different modes.
Gaia and Yu Huang are also High 1-A as they created the Triat.
Bondye is unfathomable and unreachable to the other Gods and is thus High 1-A
Buddha is completely beyond comparison to the Gods as he exists in Nirvana and surpassed all of them.
Lucifer went quite broad and has power over Thaumiel, which is the equal and opposite to Jehovah's Keter
Likewise, Lilith is equals with Jehovah (as stated at many points in the lore).
Jehovah is the source of Yahweh, a lower aspect of him which embodies the Tree of Life and the Unity of God's masculine aspects, in essence, Jehovah is his own Monad (and thus a false one)
Likewise, the Triat would be High 1-A, they are just all of existence in different modes.
Gaia and Yu Huang are also High 1-A as they created the Triat.
Bondye is unfathomable and unreachable to the other Gods and is thus High 1-A
Buddha is completely beyond comparison to the Gods as he exists in Nirvana and surpassed all of them.
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True Form Gaia or just her in general? Who's stronger of the two? Gaia or Jade Emperor(Yu Huang)?
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I do remember reading a bit about Lilith. However, I have to say some of the three concepts are inaccurate. Both the Tree of Life and Death.
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Gaia in general
Yu Huang is apparently the superior of the two, having made Gaia to complete him.
You mean Tree of Life and Tree of Knowledge.
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I mean Kabbalah Tree of Life and Qliptoth Tree of Death
Udlmaster
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Yeah, Qlippoth ain't the "Tree of Death"
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I'm not separating the two as different. Just the depiction behind each as per “Kabbalah” and “Qliphoth.”
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new ep of HTP just dropped.
So the second inquistion is mentioned. D is said to have been recokoned so he may be an imbued. Occum is a sorceror capable of teleporation and doing ritual to detect a ghoul via someone blood. The ghoul has vampire disciplines . Renold has gone on safaries for werebears. His son is said to have potential in figthing by big D.
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