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A very long content revision and then i take a break

I don't think the nightmare world is a void.

Existing in a void also doesn't give void manipulation, that part of the VM page should be removed.
 
Monarch is correct.
 
and then look at my above comment bill did this weird thing to stans mind which i provided a link for and later when unkowingly going into his mind he calls it a perfect void also he direcctly forced the intro to go his way as shown by it originally going the normal way than it changes to how bill wants it
 
@Ant Should I just remove that part about existing in non-existence from the void page right now?
 
I don't really care if it counts or not, but it does as long as it is on the void manipulation page.

If you think that it shouldn't count, make a CRT
 
I agree with Monarch that existing in a void does not automatically give void manipulation.
 
As I said, according to the Void Manipulation page, it does.

If you think that it's wrong, that it should be another power or something, make a thread to debate it. I'm not against it. But Void Manipulation does what the page says, and the page says that you can use it to exist in nonexistence
 
You are correct that the Void Manipulation page says this, even though it does not make any sense. That should definitely be corrected.
 
I would prefer not, as that part of the definition will most likely be removed soon.
 
so it seems cal agrees that bill should be high 2-A but kaltias and monarch are against it and i dont think ant has a side
 
Can somebody summarise the High 2-A arguments for me please?
 
When building something to defeat Bill, Ford said that he wished he "had not dropped 5th dimensional calculus in third semester".

That's it.
 
That seems like very little to base an upgrade on, especially as 2-A works along a 5-D axis. The universes simply have no 5-D volume.
 
So, I suppose that the statistics changes have been rejected then.

All that is left is to add the accepted new abilities,
 
For the last time it was not to destroy bill it was to actually access to get to him I get if you don't accept it but still just know that is the real reasoning
 
also for plot manip apparently he controlled alex on a twitter tweet which i don't think i can find but it says a normal message but all capped words spell all hail bill
 
I do not think that seems reliable for plot manipulation.

Also, again, I think that we should just add the accepted new abilities, so we can get done with this thread.
 
Okay. Thank you for the help.

I will unlock the Bill Cipher page. Tell me here when you are done.
 
I do not remember anymore, but would appreciate if somebody could examine the above discussion and provide a summary.
 
Which abilities specifically did I personally accept to be added, and of those, which were not rejected by other staff members?
 
Okay. Thank you for the information.
 
The 2-C lacks a justification (That he absorbed multiple realities into the nightmare realm in the comic) and the soul manipulation shouldn't have it's restriction, other than that looks good
 
ZacharyGrossman273 said:
The 2-C lacks a justification (That he absorbed multiple realities into the nightmare realm in the comic) and the soul manipulation shouldn't have it's restriction, other than that looks good
Thanks for the help @ZacharyGrossman273!
 
Has the page been further updated?
 
Okay. Feel free to add that then.
 
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