A very long content revision and then i take a break

[Totallynotchewbacca]

Also I forgot if I said so screw chain manip as it was prolly just telekinesisbsorry ant

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

also it is implied bill did use void manip as when this happens https://youtu.be/YJDX6zjlR_0?t=2m28s bill later calls it a void thinking stanford simply had an organized mind https://youtu.be/XnGD4IpJvQA

also bill should have portal creation if he doesn't already since dipper mabel and soos were able to make one

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

He should also have existence erasure due to what he did to time baby

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

That wasn't existence erasure though. He obliterated him down to the molecular structure.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

evaluate the abilities i put down and say what you agree on and add more if you find but after that tell me because i have more abilities that can be evaluated

 

[Kaltias]

5th dimention is parallel worlds the same as how 4th dimensional is time

So that's just multi-universal range?

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

@Katlias i don't know

bill may actually get an unknown for his restricted tier as the number of dimensions within the nightmare realm are unknown they could be 2c, at least 2c, 2b, at least 2b, or even 2a considering how the nightmare realm is infinitely growing so the dimensions could also

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

At least 2-C for restricted makes the most sense

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

yeah but we don't know how many there are we could say at least 2-C, possibly far higher to show that he may be in those power levels but it may not be true and he could be lower

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Just at least 2-C is probably safe

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

So Bill can solo DBS even when restricted.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

okay i suppose but hey now he can solo castlelvania

 

[Antvasima]

Hmm, still no point by point evaluations from other staff members. Perhaps we will have to make do with my conclusions after all.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

So will he be "possibly high 2-A"?

 

[Antvasima]

I never accepted any statistics upgrades. You need help from staff members who know Gravity Falls better than me for that.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

Cal and azzy may help us

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

What sort of 5th dimensional research are we talking about here.

Because just saying "he needed 5th dimensional research to beat him" does not scream that Bill is High 2-A to me.

Also what Kal said.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Just realized something.

Since Bill's concept manipulation is apparently crap, shouldn't it be specified to be Type 4 on his profile?

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Bill's concept manipulation comes from one statement that the seven deadly sins are his babies, with no further clarification, and is honestly some of the worst concept justification I've seen

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Isn't that just Creation which Bill already has? Then the concept manipulation should be removed.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

Monarch he didn't beat bill with said research he used the research to access bill we have no idea what was the research for the gun

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Due to the weirdness of it but still being explicity 5-D, I think possibly High 2-A is a safe compromise

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

Bill is a very vague character indeed with his stats

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

Likely it possibly as they mean very different things when you put it

 

[JooCipher]

correct me if i'm wrong but High 2-A Bill would confirm(or make) Axolotl High 2-A as well right?

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

yes but isnt he already?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

He was going to be downgraded, but if bill becomes high 2-A his rating will stay

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

well wouldnt he become at least high 2-A for his superiority to bill

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I suppose at least high 2-A is fine

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

If Ford needs 5-D mathematics to access said realm that Bill controls in its entirety, then I can get behind High 2-A. It's not even that much of an assumption.

 

[Antvasima]

I agree that Bill's concept manipulation should preferably be removed, if there is such a bad reason for it.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

well how about removing the meaning of meaning and turning existence upside down i know he just said this but he killed time so why can't these be true and the seconds sounds like concept alteration and while it may be weak with the deadly sins didn't he still create the concept of them?

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

"time is dead" -> He killed Time Baby, who controls space-time. Which is different from erasing the concept of time.

"meaning has no meaning" -> referring to the invasion of the nightmare dimension and madness.

His only statement of creating the seven deadly sins comes from a single sentence where he called them his babies, which means nothing on its own.

 

[Antvasima]

I agree with Monarch.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Yes, high 2-A is fine, but conceptual manipulation probably needs to go

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

and how about existence is upside down i mean why existence and not life or something more relevant

 

[Kaltias]

Honestly can i see those scans/clips with this 5D research thing?

And as i said, GF already messed up "dimensions are infinitely higher" once.

I'd like proof that it isn't the case here.

Also because 5-D in physic means parallel universe

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

^

Again, what Kal said

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

and how about existence is upside down i mean why existence and not life or something more relevant

That traces to Time Baby's statement that he could "destroy the very fabric of existence" which is further backed up by the journal stating that he was a threat to a multiverse that contained infinite universes.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

i cant find the page on google and my phone is too glitched to upload it so i wil do so later i got togo now bye!