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Sure, why not
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Yeah I don't see why this wouldn't work
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Yeah no.
We don't give someone combined AP like this until and unless there's explicit confirmation from the story via statements or similar that their AP increases when they attack at the same time, or if it was explictly confirmed via statements that Superman fought their combined power. For example, one character scaling to 500 gigatons of TNT and another character scaling to them, if they punched in the same spot at the same time, wouldn't amount to 1 teraton (1000 gigatons) unless explicitly stated by the story that the two of them punching together would wield twice as much as their individual selves. We stopped doing that a while back.
Only exception is when a calculation is made involving two characters, in which case we divide the yield by the number of characters it took to pull it off to get their individual yields. But this ain't it chief.
We don't give someone combined AP like this until and unless there's explicit confirmation from the story via statements or similar that their AP increases when they attack at the same time, or if it was explictly confirmed via statements that Superman fought their combined power. For example, one character scaling to 500 gigatons of TNT and another character scaling to them, if they punched in the same spot at the same time, wouldn't amount to 1 teraton (1000 gigatons) unless explicitly stated by the story that the two of them punching together would wield twice as much as their individual selves. We stopped doing that a while back.
Only exception is when a calculation is made involving two characters, in which case we divide the yield by the number of characters it took to pull it off to get their individual yields. But this ain't it chief.
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Along with that, if this was applicable, it would really be Clark overpowering the combined force of Arthur and Victor, since Diana is not really putting forth any energy against him — she is struggling to break free from his grasp, but she is not actively pressuring him like the former two are.
EDIT: Also, this seems like Calc Stacking.
EDIT: Also, this seems like Calc Stacking.
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What KLOL said. Site doesn’t do stuff like that for AP without statements. That said, he is overpowering Arthur and Victor in terms of LS so that’s a thing that could work.
Off-topic but figured I would bring it up since I just thought of it. Should Clark get Limited Adaptation and/or Reactive Power Level? Whenever he encounters something that is affecting him, he just up and says no u like super jumping to his first flight, was puking blood from Krypton’s atmosphere on the ship to dizzy spells at the WE to just ignoring it by the end, HV used to hurt his eyes in MoS but BvS and JL is unaffected, gets beat on by Faora to matching her to holding off her and Nam-Ek etc etc.
Off-topic but figured I would bring it up since I just thought of it. Should Clark get Limited Adaptation and/or Reactive Power Level? Whenever he encounters something that is affecting him, he just up and says no u like super jumping to his first flight, was puking blood from Krypton’s atmosphere on the ship to dizzy spells at the WE to just ignoring it by the end, HV used to hurt his eyes in MoS but BvS and JL is unaffected, gets beat on by Faora to matching her to holding off her and Nam-Ek etc etc.
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LS is fine. AP needs more proof and statements.
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Eh, no.
Calc stacking is using an AP/speed value from one calc and then using it for another calc to get inflated results. Calc stacking doesn't occur when there's explicit confirmation/statements of multiple dudes combining their punching power to take something out. LS is even more straightforward.
For example, Calc 1 got a Relativistic+ value for Character A. Calc 2 involves Character B dodging attacks from A, and then it involves using that Relativistic+ value to get a higher speed for Character B depending on how far Character B moved compared to Character A's attack. That would be Calc stacking.
However, in another scenario, Calc 1 wields X amount of LS/AP for Character A. Two other characters, B and C scale and are equal to A. Then, Characters A, B and C wrestle against Character D, but fail and D overpowers them. The story explicitly confirms with statements that even the combined might of Characters A, B and C couldn't do jackshit against Character D. Character D scales above their combined might. This is not calc stacking. Combined LS is a no-brainer, it's the easiest to prove and requires only that you show scenes of two characters wrestling against one. AP tho, you're gonna need a statement that the one character was facing off against the combined might of the two characters.
Another example: Character A and B create a massive explosion of X tons of TNT/lifted X tons of Mass. Since it took two of them to pull off, you divide the yield by half to get their individual yields. This is also not calc stacking. Never has been, never will be.
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The most this amounts to is Superman have superior LS than the three and durability strong enough to resist them damaging him. It doesn't mean he scales to 3x their AP.
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You missed my point there. He doesn't need 3x their AP to tank their attacks. He needs to be durable to resist their pressure and have lifting strength high enough to overpower all three. He doesn't need AP that dwarfs the rest of them (which as a note is not back in either the Snyder or Main universe cut of JL considered that Superman never one shot Steppenwolf).
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He could have one shotted Steppenwolf, he would have one shotted Steppenwolf. It makes absolutely zero sense for Superman to not immediately end the fight, he isn't Goku.
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Where? In both versions he completely hammered into Steppenwolf only for him to get right back up. The Snyderversion is even worse because he actively sliced off his horn and had zero regard for Steppenwolf's health since he helped decapitate him. If he could one shot Steppenwolf and completely focus on stopping the Motherbox he would have done so.
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Pushing and Wrestling =/= durability tho, this'd only be an LS feat.
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