A new powers page for weapon enhancements?

[Antvasima]

Hello.

It seems like we have no current page for empowering external objects such as weapons. Should we create a new "Weapon Enhancement" page, or expand on a powers page that we already have available instead? And would somebody be willing to handle the required work for this task?

 

[Antvasima]

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[SamanPatou]

We already have power bestowal, maybe we can expand the page to include objects other than characters.

If you refer to generic strength, then I think we already do that with Statistics Amplification, which currently applies to only characters, just like power bestowal.

 

[Ogbunabali]

I thought Power Bestowal did that job. We also have Damage Boost and Statistics Amplification as well.

 

[The_Impress]

Yeah it's just Power Bestowal imo, nothing states it can't be done to non-living objects on the file, so I'm not sure if we even need to change the description of Power Bestowal

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

This came from Jack the Ripper ability that can turn anything he touch a divine weapon

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for the information.

I cleaned up the text in the page somewhat:

Power Bestowal

Power Bestowal is the ability to grant other beings or objects new abilities or new forms to their abilities. Note that just because a character can grant a power to another, does not mean that they can grant that same power to themselves. It must be stated that said ability can grant the user...

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[Damage3245]

While we're on the topic, I think that we need a new page for "Weapon Manipulation". To cover characters who can summon their weapon to them, or telekinetically control their weapons to fly through the air or attack with them.

I think it'd be a good replacement for giving characters straight-up telekinesis if the only thing they've been shown to have control over is a specific weapon or tool.

 

[Antvasima]

I am not sure. It seems like a too limited ability.

 

[Damage3245]

Possibly. The characters I'm thinking of for the application of it are like Thor, Ichigo and Byakuya from Bleach, King from Nanatsu no Taizai, etc. But if it is too limited, fair enough.

 

[Antoniofer]

I believe people uses Power Bestowal to cover granting abilities to otherwise conventional weapons. Former discussions suggested the creation of the Enchanting ability, although we deemed as a form of Magic.

For character simply infusing their energies/essence into things is considered Aura I believe, although the current description may not fit.

As for Weapon Manipulation, I suggested the creation of the power Object Manipulation, when character can only control specific objects rather than simply use TK, but I believe it was rejected.

 

[Antvasima]

I cleaned up the text in the page somewhat:

Power Bestowal

Power Bestowal is the ability to grant other beings or objects new abilities or new forms to their abilities. Note that just because a character can grant a power to another, does not mean that they can grant that same power to themselves. It must be stated that said ability can grant the user...

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Was my cleanup acceptable, or should further work be done? I am not sure if "themself" is correct grammar or not, so suggestions for a replacement would be appreciated.

 

[Cosmic_King_of_SAO]

Was my cleanup acceptable, or should further work be done? I am not sure if "themself" is correct grammar or not, so suggestions for a replacement would be appreciated.

Themselves is the correct grammar.

Here's the correct grammar: Note that just because a character can grant a power to another, does not mean that they can grant that same power to themselves. It must be stated that said ability can grant the user greater power as well. Sometimes it is seen as being [[Blessed]] by a deity or a higher being.

Everything else seems alright in terms of grammar.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for the help. I will make corrections.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I think this just sounds like a redundant form of Power Bestowal, though for some cases where characters can amp their own weapons with their Ki for example, that can be energy manipulation/Ki Manipulation too.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes. Agreed. I had forgotten about the Power Bestowal page.

 

[Elizhaa]

I do agree with others on Power Bestowal; it should be enough.

 

[Promestein]

I agree with Saman

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I already slightly expanded on the definitions of the Power Bestowal page to include both beings and objects, so I hope that's enough at least.

 

[Starter_Pack]

The expansions you have done are fine.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Possibly. The characters I'm thinking of for the application of it are like Thor, Ichigo and Byakuya from Bleach, King from Nanatsu no Taizai, etc. But if it is too limited, fair enough.

Another example would be the Creeper.

As is I'd just clarify for damage enhancement or power bestowal that they can amp objects.

 

[Rez]

Shriou will make a good poster boy for this power of it gets accepted

 

[Rez]

 

[Antvasima]

I think that we decided that my suggestion would be unnecessary, given that we already have a power bestowal page.

 

[Rez]

Oh ok but a weapon manipulation page could have covered a lot of abilities such as weapon modification and enchantment, weapon related telekinesis and on spot weapon creation or summoning

 

[Antvasima]

Well, we already have a page that includes the ability to enhance weapons, so going through all of the pages that link to it, and redirecting them to a new page, seems like lots of unnecessary work.

 

[SheevShezarrine]

Possibly. The characters I'm thinking of for the application of it are like Thor, Ichigo and Byakuya from Bleach, King from Nanatsu no Taizai, etc. But if it is too limited, fair enough.

Don't forget Girugamesh!

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Empowerment

Empowerment is the ability to strengthen oneself due to various circumstances and outside forces that may or may not be under their control. Unlike Statistics Amplification, empowerment is often involuntary and inherent to each character rather than an activated ability. Might become weakened...

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[SheevShezarrine]

Well, we already have a page that includes the ability to enhance weapons, so going through all of the pages that link to it, and redirecting them to a new page, seems like lots of unnecessary work.

May be worth creating an abilities page for the plethora of characters with TK restricted to their own weapons. Also, weapons being bound to their owner's soul/life force/etc. are fairly common as well (see basically every boss weapon in the Souls series), so perhaps a "Bonded Weapon" page could be created for these and other weapons?

 

[Antvasima]

No. Sorry. It is not a prominent and notable enough ability.

 

[Cosmic_King_of_SAO]

@Antvasima I believe it would be best for this thread to be locked.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes. Agreed.