9 foot blind monster fights an engineer on speed (0-7-0) GRACE

[King_Dom470]

Rules:
Battle takes place inside the DOORS hallways and theres items scattered for the player to craft with
The Player has their peak human speed
The Player is an engineer, has the Adrenaline Junkie trait, and has stealth maxed out
The player has 1 hour of prep time and prior knowledge (All equipment is restricted to 9-C)
The Player has a fireaxe and beta blockers
The Figure has prior knowledge
SBA for everything else

"GO BACK TO HELL YOU SON OF A BITCH!":



"Do not come too close. It can sense your heartbeat": (Sans2345, Comiphorous, AThe1412, noninho, King_Dom470, Mariogoods, MarkGoldbridge)



Incon:

Fight Stuff:
The Player has an AP advantage of around 3x
The Player starts with a speed advantage of 2.09962819553x.
When The Figure gets going it has a speed advantage of 1.18401718678x
The Figure has a lifting strength advantage of 8.99749632353x

 

[King_Dom470]

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[Sans2345]

Okay so, the player is vastly smarter than figure so they would most likely figure out that figure is blind and can only hear, they would most likely set up a trap for figure before trying to behead them with their fireaxe.

And then there's the fact that the player has the AP advantage.

 

[Sans2345]

Voting for the player, they are smarter than figure and has the AP advantage.

 

[King_Dom470]

Okay so, the player is vastly smarter than figure so they would most likely figure out that figure is blind and can only hear, they would most likely set up a trap for figure before trying to behead them with their fireaxe.

And then there's the fact that the player has the AP advantage.

Without the engineer occupation they can't really set up traps especially not without a bit of prep time, prior knowledge or the correct equipment. Also they don't have their good stealth mastery so they aren’t as quiet as they could be.

One thing the player does counter is the fear manipulation since they have the veteran occupation they would just totally resist it

 

[Comiphorous]

Okay so, the player is vastly smarter than figure so they would most likely figure out that figure is blind and can only hear, they would most likely set up a trap for figure before trying to behead them with their fireaxe.

Sets up a trap

Figure hears the trap, and the survivor setting up the trap

Trap fails because Figure can hear the trap, and just lets Figure know exactly where the survivor is

oh no, who would have seen that one coming?

good luck trying to behead figure, if they dare breathe wrong Figure already knows the exact point they're standing at and will completely steamroll through them considering Figure has superior range and regneration. also doesn't help The Survivor would need to take out Figure on their first go, since if figure survives one of their attacks, he goes for amping and bull charges their ass.

 

[King_Dom470]

oh no, who would have seen that one coming?

good luck trying to behead figure, if they dare breathe wrong Figure already knows the exact point they're standing at and will completely steamroll through them considering Figure has superior range and regneration. also doesn't help The Survivor would need to take out Figure on their first go, since if figure survives one of their attacks, he goes for amping and bull charges their ass.

They can't even set up traps without the engineer occupation.

amping won't give it enough of an advantage to blitz especially given the fact that stat amp can more or less even them out. However I did sorta forget how insane the enhanced senses were that good so should I give the player their stealth mastery?

 

[Comiphorous]

amping won't give it enough of an advantage to blitz especially given the fact that stat amp can more or less even them out. However I did sorta forget how insane the enhanced senses were that good so should I give the player their stealth mastery?

amping will make figure superior to the survivor, not equal. he goes up to superhuman with his amps.

Stealth mastery doesn't help, with or without. Figure would be able to hear their heart beating either way.

 

[King_Dom470]

amping will make figure superior to the survivor, not equal. he goes up to superhuman with his amps.

So does the player

Stealth mastery doesn't help, with or without. Figure would be able to hear their heart beating either way.

The Player resists Fear Manipulation so their heart rate will remain the same

 

[Comiphorous]

So does the player

???

you literally put them at peak human, and only reach superhuman with a perk + leveling they don't have here. no they don't, unless you want to edit the OP to give them that.

The Player resists Fear Manipulation so their heart rate will remain the same

That fear manipulation resistance is bogus lol. thats a resistence to Social Influencing. not being scared of intimidating things isn't resistance to fear manipulation lol.

either way, supernaturally induced fear isn't covered by resisting being scared of intimidating things, so either way they're effected

 

[King_Dom470]

you literally put them at peak human, and only reach superhuman with a perk + leveling they don't have here. no they don't, unless you want to edit the OP to give them that.

"The Player is a Veteran and has the Adrenaline Junkie trait" They get up to superhuman with adrenaline junkie

That fear manipulation resistance is bogus lol. thats a resistence to Social Influencing. not being scared of intimidating things isn't resistance to fear manipulation lol.

What really makes the figure have "Supernatural Fear Manipulation" all it does is make you panic which isn't that weird given its such a scary looking monster

 

[Comiphorous]

"The Player is a Veteran and has the Adrenaline Junkie trait" They get up to superhuman with adrenaline junkie

damn you should get that on the profile, because Adrenaline junkie isn't mentioned on the profile once.

What really makes the figure have "Supernatural Fear Manipulation" all it does is make you panic which isn't that weird given its such a scary looking monster

even if you want to argue that his fear manipulation is also Social Influencing, it still bypasses the resistance of the survivor's social influencing since it's such a shitty resistance

and you know, lets just ignore he's the only one who forces the player's heartbeat to rise even when they aren't aware of it's presence.

 

[King_Dom470]

damn you should get that on the profile, because Adrenaline junkie isn't mentioned on the profile once

It’s on the profile in the traits sections of powers and abilities.

even if you want to argue that his fear manipulation is also Social Influencing, it still bypasses the resistance of the survivor's social influencing since it's such a shitty resistance

The player with the desensitized trait is actually fully incapable of feeling panic like on the same level of a player with beta blockers, I can almost guarantee that it will not work on the player. (Btw the way beta blockers work is that they slow down a persons heart rate so just imagine that but it’s always on)

 

[Comiphorous]

It’s on the profile in the traits sections of powers and abilities.

that... isn't for it's superhuman speed though? the profile clearly says that the survivor needs a shit ton of levels then a completely separate trait to be superhuman. having that trait just makes them a bit faster.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

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[Sans2345]

Yeah, i think Figure takes this despite the AP and intelligence advantage the player has.

 

[Comiphorous]

The player with the desensitized trait is actually fully incapable of feeling panic like on the same level of a player with beta blockers, I can almost guarantee that it will not work on the player. (Btw the way beta blockers work is that they slow down a persons heart rate so just imagine that but it’s always on)

also regarding this, slowing their heartbeat does not matter. unless they can change the volume of their heartbeat, the only thing that changes from that is it will sense the survivor's location in fewer intervals if they're standing dead still.

 

[King_Dom470]

that... isn't for it's superhuman speed though? the profile clearly says that the survivor needs a shit ton of levels then a completely separate trait to be superhuman. having that trait just makes them a bit faster.

They have peak human speed which is a little over 23 mph. And adrenaline junkie increases speed by 1.25x which is a little over 28 mph

 

[King_Dom470]

Should I give the player prep time? Or at least prior knowledge?

 

[Comiphorous]

Should I give the player prep time? Or at least prior knowledge?

prep time ends the same way, they set stuff up/train themself up, Figure instantly hears even their smallest movement/anything they set up, and completely steam rolls through them due it's higher LS it mainly uses when it attacks people

prior knowledge kind of just delays the inevitable. the only difference that makes is that it's drawn out for a longer period of time, since i have no idea how the Survivor would act knowing they can't get near Figure without alerting it.

 

[King_Dom470]

prep time ends the same way, they set stuff up/train themself up, Figure instantly hears even their smallest movement/anything they set up, and completely steam rolls through them due it's higher LS it mainly uses when it attacks people

prior knowledge kind of just delays the inevitable. the only difference that makes is that it's drawn out for a longer period of time, since i have no idea how the Survivor would act knowing they can't get near Figure without alerting it.

Ok I'm gonna change some stuff around to make it more fair because this is kinda seeming like a stomp right now

 

[King_Dom470]

Ok changed some stuff around now they both definitely have ways to kill the other

 

[King_Dom470]

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[King_Dom470]

The Player:

• Can use noise makers to mess with the Figures hearing
• 3 times stronger
• Way smarter
• Can become briefly faster than the figure with adrenaline
• More skilled
• Beta blockers slow down the players heart beat
• Experience in sneaking around characters with really good hearing

The Figure:

• Way higher lifting strength
• Insane senses can track the players heart beat if the beta blockers run out
• Regeneration
• Will usually be faster
• Higher stamina
• Resists Molotovs
• Better range

 

[Comiphorous]

Way smarter

almost none of their intelligence feats are usable in combat, so unless they get in a competition for making an ikea chair, chances are they're equal in intelligence combat-wise.

Beta blockers slow down the players heart beat

why would slowing down their heart beat do anything lol??? Figure can steal hear it.

Experience in sneaking around characters with really good hearing

said experience is useless as all hell since Figure's senses blow zombies out of the water.

still seeing it go to Figure. the only way The Survivor is hurting figure is getting into hand reach of the figure, which would alert it far before they get that close, which is basically their death sentence.

 

[King_Dom470]

almost none of their intelligence feats are usable in combat, so unless they get in a competition for making an ikea chair, chances are they're equal in intelligence combat-wise.

They are more experienced since they can fight against other players who can be police officers and veterans so they have comparable combat skill.

why would slowing down their heart beat do anything lol??? Figure can steal hear it.

Doesn’t it need to be beating fast? Isn't slowing it down the only way to avoid the thing?

said experience is useless as all hell since Figure's senses blow zombies out of the water.

Fair but coupling the really good stealth with beta blockers and noise makers means that they can lessen how noticeable they will be and maybe even overwhelming the figure with all the loud stuff. Especially given prep time and prior knowledge

 

[Comiphorous]

They are more experienced since they can fight against other players who can be police officers and veterans so they have comparable combat skill.

is multiplayer canon? i was under the assumption it wasn't.

Doesn’t it need to be beating fast? Isn't slowing it down the only way to avoid the thing?

no. the DOORS player has weird body control that lets them avoid figure hearing their heart beat. they're controlling the actual heartbeat, not slowing it down.

 

[King_Dom470]

is multiplayer canon? i was under the assumption it wasn't.

I don't see why it wouldn’t be considered canon. Theres nothing in the game that says that the player is the only survivor in fact they just say theres a small population of people that are immune so its probably canon

no. the DOORS player has weird body control that lets them avoid figure hearing their heart beat. they're controlling the actual heartbeat, not slowing it down.

Oh thats kinda weird.

Either way with all the chaos the survivor can cause with bombs and noise makers they could use that to their advantage to make it harder to get caught

 

[Comiphorous]

I don't see why it wouldn’t be considered canon. Theres nothing in the game that says that the player is the only survivor in fact they just say theres a small population of people that are immune so its probably canon

fair.

Oh thats kinda weird.

very. once i get done with The Walten Files, im gonna revise the DOORS verse, which might end up upgrading Figure in the end.

Either way with all the chaos the survivor can cause with bombs and noise makers they could use that to their advantage to make it harder to get caught

not getting caught doesn't solve one of the survivor's biggest problems: actually killing figure. this guy not only is way too tall for the survivor to slice it down from the head/neck, but has to get super close to figure (which is helped by the noise they can make which would drown out the survivor's sound) and actually beating him down before he turns around and absolutely wallops on the survivor.

i still see this going to The Figure, even with the noise makers which would drown out the nosies by the survivor, they still gotta go face-to-face with it once they actually hurt it, which is gonna end really bad for the player.

 

[King_Dom470]

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[AThe1412]

Demogorgon FRA.

 

[noninho]

Unfortunately player loses FRA

 

[King_Dom470]

Demogorgon FRA.

Unfortunately player loses FRA

Both counted

 

[King_Dom470]

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