Machamp fights his Gen 5 Copy (Grace Period)

[Drite77]

Machamp (No Guard) VS Conkeldurr (Sheer Force)

Speed Unequalised

Battle takes place in Final Destination

FIGHT!

Machamp : 7 (GyroNutz, AnonymousBlank, Landon Avery, The real cal howard, Eficiente, TheArsenal1212, GlaceonGamez471 )

Conkeldurr :

Inconclusive

 

[Landon_Avery]

Thier move sets are basicly the same. The way I see it, they each have 1 edge that can swing the match in thier favor. Either Conkeldurr wins thanks to his 30% boost from Sheer Force, or Machamp wins by getting a burn off with fire punch.

 

[Drite77]

Fire Punch is not allowed, because it is a tutor move

 

[GyroNutz]

Fire Punch is an egg move, so it is allowed.

While Conkeldurr is stronger with sheer force, Machamp is a faster attacker who has mastered every martial art, making it immensely more skilled. Dynamic Punch can screw over Conkeldurr due to confusion as well, also giving Machamp an edge. Voting for Machamp

Funny, because Conkeldurr is superior in terms of the metagame.

 

[GyroNutz]

On a sidenote, just realised that Machamp vs Four Arms is now possible

 

[Drite77]

Oh, i was thinking in Conkeldurr using Fire Punch, my bad

 

[GyroNutz]

No worries

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Machamp stomps Four Arms

 

[Drite77]

Also, they scale to the same feat of speed, if i am not mistaken. And Conkeldurr can also use Dynamic Punch, so that shouldn't be a pro to him to?

 

[GyroNutz]

He can, but sheer force cancels the confusion out.

@Anonymous Four Arms is almost 6x faster, and I think has high enough AP to harm Machamp. It could work

 

[Drite77]

But what about the speed?


And Four Arms 7-A key is FTL, while Machamp is Relativistic , but let's not talk about this here anymore, if you want, i can make a FA vs Machamp to debate there

 

[GyroNutz]

They both scale to the same feat, but some scale higher than others. Someone like Electrode or Weavile isn't the same speed as someone like Rhyperior or Aggron, for example.

 

[Drite77]

Neat, but i don't see how Machamp would scale higher than Conkeldurr, it is because of Conkeldurr pillars?

 

[GyroNutz]

Both their stats and pokedex entries point towards Machamp being the faster fighter. I'd say he wins without the edge in speed anyway though, since Machamp still has an immense skill advantage.

 

[Drite77]

True, thanks for you input here.


@Landon Avery you voted for incon?

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Machamp FRA

 

[Landon_Avery]

I'll vote for Machamp, confusion from Dynamic Punch will turn his own power against him, and getting his attack power cut in 1/2 by a burn makes this abit off an up hill battle for Conkelder.

P.S. Totally forgot about Dynamic Punch when I was posted that 1st comment.

 

[Drite77]

I mean, 10% may seem high, but i highly doubt that Conkeldurr will get burn in the battle, via my experience in pokemon, but i will count the vote

 

[Landon_Avery]

I mean, 10% may seem high, but i highly doubt that Conkeldurr will get burn in the battle, via my experience in pokemon, but i will count the vote

No Guard makes missing...not be a thing. Machamp can get a guaranteed confusion with DP, and the spam Fire Punch ulntil he gets a burn off.

 

[Drite77]

Not talking aboult DP, but Conkeldurr will likely faint before he gets burned by fire punch

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Machamp for those reasons. Outskills. While Conkeldurr has the weapons in the concrete pillars and has pure AP on its side, Machamp being the faster, smarter opponent should have the advantages.

 

[Eficiente]

I like the title, Machamp ftra.

 

[Drite77]

I like the title, Machamp ftra.

I appreciate the compliment mate

 

[TheArsenal1212]

Machamp take this. Not only is he faster, he's the smarter fighter by a long shot not to mention he outskills drastically as well

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

The champ Fra

 

[Drite77]

Grace!

 

[Drite77]

Grace ended, can someone unlock Conkeldurr to add this ?

 

[GyroNutz]

Added

 

[Drite77]

thx, this can be closed now