3rd key for Shirohige

[PsychoWarper]

So this is more of a discussion about this idea that could lead to it being implanted but imo Whitebeard should gain a 3rd key which would be a “Marineford” key.

We clearly hear from several people and see for ourselves that WBs health is deteriorating at an alarming rate and his power and various other attributes are also weakening during MF.

Some might argue that Old WB = MF WB but we hear several times that Old WB, when relatively healthy and on his meds, is comparable to Primebeard at least in terms of physical power but during Marineford due to his illness’, having been off his life support and meds for a few days, his abilities are decreasing.

This would also add a weakness for Old WB as if hes forced to fight for to long hed start to deteriorate into MF WB.

 

[KingTempest]

Bro I hate you.

Do you know why I hate you?

Because I was deadass just typing this up.

But regardless, I agree

 

[PsychoWarper]

Bro I hate you.

Do you know why I hate you?

Because I was deadass just typing this up.

But regardless, I agree

Im fast as **** boi

 

[Eminiteable]

I agree

 

[StrawHatArslan]

I agree, where would he scale to in ap and dura?

 

[KingTempest]

He was the one that made the feat the current oldbeard scales to.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

He was the one that made the feat the current oldbeard scales to.

Confusedddd

 

[PsychoWarper]

Tbf it could be argued that since he preformed that feat at the very beginning of MF that he hadnt deteriorated as much so you could maybe still classify that as Oldbeard.

 

[Js250476]

Im fast as **** boi

“Have you ever typed at the speed of light?”

Anyway I agree with this

 

[KingTempest]

Ohhhhh nvm

Yeah they scale to 14 TT then

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Ohhhhh nvm

Yeah they scale to 14 TT then

Yeah, for fighting akainu and hurting him I believe

 

[LordGinSama]

Disagree with the weaknesses but aside from that I agree with the rest. Whitebeard only got that weak via enduring a heart attack and so forth, if anything its like Okita's tuberculosis from Fate. He's prone to heart attacks and moments of weakness, which leave him open to attacks.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Disagree with the weaknesses but aside from that I agree with the rest. Whitebeard only got that weak via enduring a heart attack and so forth, if anything its like Okita's tuberculosis from Fate. He's prone to heart attacks and moments of weakness, which leave him open to attacks.

I mean but Oldbeard became MF WB due to his failing health, so theoretically ahould he be forced into a prolonged foght without help or his meds he should start to feel the same health issues.

 

[joshpiece]

I agree with this.

I think some notes should be written for his durability or something like that

 

[Antvasima]

Wouldn't he still have the same statistics tiers though? Meaning: Is this really necessary?

 

[KingTempest]

Wouldn't he still have the same statistics tiers though? Meaning: Is this really necessary?

He's weaker with less abilities and different scaling, and he's who a good amount of people scale off of

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Wouldn't he still have the same statistics tiers though? Meaning: Is this really necessary?

I think it is. Oldbeard and Primebeard are both 26 TT, but MF WB who's getting sicker by the minute scales to 14 TT, for battering akainu and taking his magma punches.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Wouldn't he still have the same statistics tiers though? Meaning: Is this really necessary?

But hes noted as being unable to do things he’d normally be able to, cant dodge as efficiently, his haki is far weaker and he surprisingly has less Stamina.

Plus you could honestly argue that MF WB is 14 TT rather than the 26 TT his other two forms hold.

 

[Antvasima]

He's weaker with less abilities and different scaling, and he's who a good amount of people scale off of

Okay. Then I do not mind.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Whitebeard actually wanted to die in marineford and held back because of his crew and also because he wanted to die... Which is why old Whitebeard didn't do planetary feats

 

[Antvasima]

@Damage3245

What do you think about this?

 

[Damage3245]

I have mixed feelings around Whitebeard's scaling overall.

I could see this being a replacement for the current old Whitebeard key, but I don't much see the points in both of them at once.

 

[WrongIdea21]

I was Thinking of This Last Night, MF Whitebeard just Sucks he doesn't do anything until Ace dies, apart from Tsunami feats Even his Durability is also very odd, he doesn't even have any durability Feats there, Admiral's Feats shouldn't count because there's more Durability Negation even a Nameless Fooder sticks a sword in his body.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

I have mixed feelings around Whitebeard's scaling overall.

I could see this being a replacement for the current old Whitebeard key, but I don't much see the points in both of them at once.

You realize WB when first arriving to MF, is different from him at the end of marineford, it’s obviously there. I don’t see what mixed feelings you have, when’s there’s literal 3 6-B calcs for him.

 

[Damage3245]

You realize WB when first arriving to MF, is different from him at the end of marineford, it’s obviously there. I don’t see what mixed feelings you have, when’s there’s literal 3 6-B calcs for him.

I don't trust the method for them, but that's a different topic.

Whitebeard at the end of Marineford is obviously different, but is it enough to justify a key?

 

[StrawHatArslan]

I don't trust the method for them, but that's a different topic.

Whitebeard at the end of Marineford is obviously different, but is it enough to justify a key?

I don’t know what you mean by the method.
I believe it is, because he clearly got weaker in AP and his durability.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

I don't trust the method for them, but that's a different topic.

Whitebeard at the end of Marineford is obviously different, but is it enough to justify a key?

Also if you have a problem with the method, then try to make a crt on it unless you don’t have a huge problem.

 

[Damage3245]

Also if you have a problem with the method, then try to make a crt on it unless you don’t have a huge problem.

I just said it was a whole other topic, stop making a deal out of it on this CRT.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

I just said it was a whole other topic, stop making a deal out of it on this CRT.

Mb

 

[KingTempest]

Whitebeard at that moment has weaker (if not none at all) Haki, is slower, less AP, etc.

Why are we debating giving him a key?

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I do not mind. I am just not sure if it is necessary.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Well, I do not mind. I am just not sure if it is necessary.

Why not? Theres a clear distinction in power and could help clear up with the overall scaling chain.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, somebody well-informed can add it if they wish.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Ive asked King if hed be willing to preform the changes since he understands the scaling better than me and he agreed to do it.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

her

Kingtempest is a girl

 

[PsychoWarper]

No

 

[KingTempest]

Ive asked King if hed be willing to preform the changes since he understands the scing better than me and he agreed to do it.

Just woke up, like I literally just got out of bed.

I can handle it

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Just woke up, like I literally just got out of bed.

I can handle it

Just stretch

 

[PsychoWarper]

Just woke up, like I literally just got out of bed.

I can handle it

Alright, didnt say you had to do it right this second kek.

 

[KingTempest]

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