2 Perfect Humans Come and Play (Ayanokouji Kiyotaka vs Composite Human (Real World))

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[Rakih_Elyan]

Human win

 

[H3110l12345I20]

Human win

Ok. I'll count that as a vote.

 

[H3110l12345I20]

So quick question for everyone, what happens to this match if CH's prep time is removed? Does it change the outcome?

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

So quick question for everyone, what happens to this match if CH's prep time is removed? Does it change the outcome?

Yep, they are pretty even now

 

[H3110l12345I20]

Yep, they are pretty even now

Will change the OP so Ayanokouji doesn't get run over by a tank lol

 

[MaybeWantsToEdit]

Without a day of prep, I think Kiyotaka just wins. He's basically a more physically beefed up comp human lol

 

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[Rayfire]

In terms of skill & experience, Composite human annihilates koji. Ayanokoji only knows 5-10 martial arts, whilst CH knows every one ever invented. CH is somewhat stronger (8.8kj > 4-5kj) and has better LS. Ayanokoji is faster, but only to a degree and not enough to blitz, considering CH also has analytical prediction i believe. So for a million other reasons, i'm Voting CH

 

[H3110l12345I20]

In terms of skill & experience, Composite human annihilates koji. Ayanokoji only knows 5-10 martial arts, whilst CH knows every one ever invented. CH is somewhat stronger (8.8kj > 4-5kj) and has better LS. Ayanokoji is faster, but only to a degree and not enough to blitz, considering CH also has analytical prediction i believe. So for a million other reasons, i'm Voting CH

Where did the 8.8 kj come from?

Though most of your other points will count and stand as a vote.

 

[Rayfire]

Where did the 8.8 kj come from?

Oh, my bad. I tried to find a calc that I swore I could remember for that, but nothing came up. I must have just been trippin

Though most of your other points will count and stand as a vote.

Thanks

 

[H3110l12345I20]

Oh, my bad. I tried to find a calc that I swore I could remember for that, but nothing came up. I must have just been trippin

You mean the one from Theirfir?

The CH peak striking strength thing relies on a kick speed estimate that breaks the world record of the fastest kick. And since the calcs are years old already, link rot has already set in.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Ayano's AP is busted, if speed isnt equal then i am voting him

 

[H3110l12345I20]

Ayano's AP is busted, if speed isnt equal then i am voting him

In regards to CH's technically lower durability, ok.

 

[H3110l12345I20]

necro bump; Ayano is now 13 KJ, though his durability makes him practically a stone wall [49.2 KJ], so should we give CH a LEDI or something dura negating?

 

[H3110l12345I20]

necro bump; Ayano is now 13 KJ, though his durability makes him practically a stone wall [49.2 KJ], so should we give CH a LEDI or something dura negating?

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[ThePrimalHunter]

So Ayano has gone through quite a few changes, so I think we should change the OP as well

My suggestions:

• Make speed equal
• Either give both of them a few days of prep time or neither prep time
• Restrict CH to limited recorces that way they don't just get a nuke in the few days and kill Ayano instantly
• Ayano should probably not have his Wall level durability for the fight

Those are my personal suggestions

Also we should specify what version of Ayano we're using, white room, prime, or current

 

[H3110l12345I20]

So Ayano has gone through quite a few changes, so I think we should change the OP as well

My suggestions:

• Make speed equal
• Either give both of them a few days of prep time or neither prep time
• Restrict CH to limited recorces that way they don't just get a nuke in the few days and kill Ayano instantly
• Ayano should probably not have his Wall level durability for the fight

Those are my personal suggestions

Also we should specify what version of Ayano we're using, white room, prime, or current

Ayano is fairly superhuman and more skilled than any IRL person. So we should use the white room version and start CH common street fight weapons+a pistol at hand. Most notably, a metal rod as a club in their dominant arm.

 

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[That_moron2]

CH Human fra

 

[H3110l12345I20]

So Ayano has gone through quite a few changes, so I think we should change the OP as well

My suggestions:

• Make speed equal
• Either give both of them a few days of prep time or neither prep time
• Restrict CH to limited recorces that way they don't just get a nuke in the few days and kill Ayano instantly
• Ayano should probably not have his Wall level durability for the fight

Those are my personal suggestions

Also we should specify what version of Ayano we're using, white room, prime, or current

Changed the match conditions vvv

• Both opponents have several days of preparation.
  • (By definition at least 2 days, but it's technically valid to also say they only have 2 days of prep as much as they have more than 2 days of prep)
• CH only has below average human budget to use in their preparation time.
  • CH starts with common street fighting weapons and a pistol in immediate access (I trust Ayano's skill is enough to keep CH from shooting their gun).
    • CH starts with a metal rod as a club in their dominant arm.
• Ayano's 9-B durability is restricted, and his white room version is only used.
• VBW SBA conditions and standard VBW thread rules otherwise.
  • Speed is equal.

 

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[ThePrimalHunter]

So with the new match conditions, Ayanokoji doesn't have the superhuman AnPr he would later get. CH, being more skilled, having equal AnPr, and probably being a lot more skilled with the weapons he can gather within the prep period has me leaning towards them, but I'd like to hear others thoughts too

 

[H3110l12345I20]

So with the new match conditions, Ayanokoji doesn't have the superhuman AnPr he would later get. CH, being more skilled, having equal AnPr, and probably being a lot more skilled with the weapons he can gather within the prep period has me leaning towards them, but I'd like to hear others thoughts too

Most of activity in the tournament has died down, so I'll participate after I reread necessary things here.

 

[H3110l12345I20]

So with the new match conditions, Ayanokoji doesn't have the superhuman AnPr he would later get. CH, being more skilled, having equal AnPr, and probably being a lot more skilled with the weapons he can gather within the prep period has me leaning towards them, but I'd like to hear others thoughts too

So far, I'll list the advantages.

Ayano

• Striking Strength
• Agility (via skill)
• Durability
• Stamina
• Overall intelligence (nonapplicable)

CH

• Skill
• Combat+reaction speed
• Combat Intelligence
• Weapons
• Range

Both opponents have mostly similar realistic abilites CH would have. It's just that much of Ayano's abilities are quite superior albeit some of them not being too relevant here.

CH has fought stronger opponents before, and with them being the best street fighter and IRL human combatant, he could close the strength gap with Ayano with his speed and weapons. It's just that the strength+skill advantage is quite notable to Ayano to where he would eventually find a way to overcome the range gap and mimic CH's fighting ability.

The bigger problem would be CH's gun, but Ayano's superior analytical prediction feats with guns and patterns suggest that Ayano would figure out very quickly to try to keep CH from pulling their gun out.

CH's wincon in a nutshell is GUN/kicking speed abuse. Ayano's wincon is to outlast via skill. I find the former more likely due to CH's superior kicking speed with their legs. Though I'm not voting for anyone yet since the changes are early, and the limited time I have may cause me to miss stuff.

 

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