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Chaotic Evil Duo vs. Mystery Twins (FunnyBunny vs. Pines Twins) [7-3-0]

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This will most likely go as a team duel. I initially wanted to just Jax vs. Dipper but realized team fight would be muuuuch better, at least imo.
(I JUST realized that both of the pics have a triangle in the left of the image that both duos fight lmao)​

Da Facts:
  • Jax and Pomni are 11.3227570271 superior in AP, Durability, and Striking Strength (one-shot level).
  • Dipper and Mabel have Memory Erasure as a wincon and Size Manip can help make them bigger and easier to shoot at
  • Due to speed equalization rules, Crystal Flashlight and Memory Gun are 1.66666666667x faster than combat and reaction of all four
    • Twins scale to 0.6c, these two weapons are speed of light, giving Dipper and Mabel Attack Speed advantage.
  • Jax and Pomni have 1.72586739952x LS advantage.
  • Jax and Pomni have many Immortalities, but they are useless against Dipper and Mabel's hax.
  • Dipper and Mabel have travel speed advantage (Superhuman vs. Average Human).
  • Dipper and Mabel are smarter.
Da Rulez:
  • Jax and Pomni have guns.
  • Dipper and Mabel have all equipment except for time tape.
  • Battle takes place in the Circus.
  • They start 57m away from each other.
  • Speed is equalized.
  • SBA for rest.
  • Have fun!

Who do YOU, the VOTERS think will win?
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Da Votes:
 
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Lowkey think Mystery Twins have slight edge due to slightly higher combat speed. However I'm not really sure which weapon they gonna use first in-character (but Dipper most likely gonna use his journal iirc)
 
AppleMaker said:
Lowkey think Mystery Twins have slight edge due to slightly higher combat speed.
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Nah their combat speed is equal, their advantage is in attack speed
AppleMaker said:
However I'm not really sure which weapon they gonna use first in-character (but Dipper most likely gonna use his journal iirc)
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I also wanna note that they share some equipment, so they can use it more effectively
 
TheOrangeGuy09 said:
Nah their combat speed is equal, their advantage is in attack speed
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I mixed them up, my bad
TheOrangeGuy09 said:
I also wanna note that they share some equipment, so they can use it more effectively
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Well, gonna vote for them FRA currently. That's just basically goes down to who's firearms gonna destroy their opponents first. However if it was without line of sight I'd gave it to FunnyBunny, since they have some skillslop
 
LittleGuy99 said:
What can they do when Pomni does this?
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Mabel dodges it with Grappling Hook!


But honestly, I don't think Pomni is going for this immediately without prior knowledge, they probably both shoot each other for a while and Pines have a chance to tag them due to greater attack speed methinks (i.e. it's at least not a stomp). But when Pomni pulls that they are cooked ye.

AppleMaker said:
Well, gonna vote for them FRA currently. That's just basically goes down to who's firearms gonna destroy their opponents first. However if it was without line of sight I'd gave it to FunnyBunny, since they have some skillslop
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Alright, counted.
 
They are inside the circus, what prevents Pomni and Jax from just using their imagination to reality warp things at minimal level to actually pull up more weapons or have sick abilities like...using lightning or something?
 
Alexander said:
They are inside the circus, what prevents Pomni and Jax from just using their imagination to reality warp things at minimal level to actually pull up more weapons or have sick abilities like...using lightning or something?
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They never really showed this yet, best Pomni did is summon the door again. And with guns, they just resort to regular shooting in-character anyways.
 
TheOrangeGuy09 said:
They never really showed this yet, best Pomni did is summon the door again. And with guns, they just resort to regular shooting in-character anyways.
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Pomni pretty much did the trick with the bullet bouncing around, which was something she did with her imagination.
It is not really complex stuff, like Kinger can give power to the computer without any wires attached to it, i don't think it is hard to make them use lightning or something like that.
 
Alexander said:
Pomni pretty much did the trick with the bullet bouncing around, which was something she did with her imagination.
It is not really complex stuff, like Kinger can give power to the computer without any wires attached to it, i don't think it is hard to make them use lightning or something like that.
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Well, it's not part of their current P&A either way (unlike bullet bouncing), so don't think we can do that now. Just use what's on the profiles.
 
Hmmmm. Jax and Pomni have the range and definitely skill advantage (Dipper and Mabel haven't exactly used the Memory Gun or size-changing flashlight in combat before). They probably wouldn't resort to using the Memory Gun instantly, and if they did, I can totally see Jax or Pomni dodging it (see all the times they evaded gunfire in episode 6).
Technically speaking, the Memory Gun's range is only "higher than Standard Melee Range" on Dipper's profile, so he definitely couldn't hit them at the given range the OP has. I'll vote Pomni and Jax.
 
Also they barely used that in combat, they only used that when they were not in a fight.
 
Randomuser3412 said:
Hmmmm. Jax and Pomni have the range and definitely skill advantage (Dipper and Mabel haven't exactly used the Memory Gun or size-changing flashlight in combat before). They probably wouldn't resort to using the Memory Gun instantly, and if they did, I can totally see Jax or Pomni dodging it (see all the times they evaded gunfire in episode 6).
Technically speaking, the Memory Gun's range is only "higher than Standard Melee Range" on Dipper's profile, so he definitely couldn't hit them at the given range the OP has. I'll vote Pomni and Jax.
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Counted!
Alexander said:
Also they barely used that in combat, they only used that when they were not in a fight.
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I presume you vote for FunynBunny FRA?
 
TBH while I think it is fair to jump to assume Jax and Pomni win I don't think it's as easy as it looks. Starting them from a distance puts the Pines Twins pretty quickly at an advantage since they have the better long-range equipment, and while Jax and Pomni have shown to bounce back from any injury, we've not seen them recover from mental manipulation or shapeshifting from exterior forces on their own- Jax couldn't choose to stop being vegan, for example, and Gangle couldn't change back from being in her Ribbon Rhinocerous form. I imagine the last episode may see them develop out their conjuring powers which could mean more control over their bodies and minds, but using what we have now, I do think I lean Dipper and Mabel.

And also worth noting that without speed equalization Dipper and Mabel would blitz due to having light-speed reaction time compared to mere bullet timing for Funnybunny. Which would mean when starting from a distance they'd have even more of an advantage, as Jax and Pomni cannot dodge light whilst Dipper and Mabel can indeed dodge bullets.

Also, sorta curious to consider how Caine vs Bill goes if stats are equal. Characters are pretty easy to compare
 
BatFellow said:
they have the better long-range equipment
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Unfortunately, only Mabel has Tens of Meters range with her equipment (presumably with her grappling hook) and, given there's no value stated on the profile, it would be 10 meters, which can't reach the base starting distance.
BatFellow said:
as Jax and Pomni cannot dodge light
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Speed equalization makes the light attacks only 1.66666666667x faster than everyone here.
 
Randomuser3412 said:
Unfortunately, only Mabel has Tens of Meters range with her equipment (presumably with her grappling hook) and, given there's no value stated on the profile, it would be 10 meters, which can't reach the base starting distance.

Speed equalization makes the light attacks only 1.66666666667x faster than everyone here.
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I was counting their equipment combined.
And I had been speaking hypothetically on if speed wasn't equal. But a 1.667* advantage is still good.
 
BatFellow said:
Also, sorta curious to consider how Caine vs Bill goes if stats are equal. Characters are pretty easy to compare
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Bill’s NEP and AE say no-no to all of Caine’s hax tbh, and Caine is very poor in terms of resistances, so would disagree with you there.

BatFellow said:
I do think I lean Dipper and Mabel.
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Do you formally vote or just leaning for now?

Oh, and also forgot to add that Dipper and Mabel have travel speed advantage but dunno how much it plays here. Maybe make up for the range gap, eh?
 
TheOrangeGuy09 said:
Bill’s NEP and AE say no-no to all of Caine’s hax tbh, and Caine is very poor in terms of resistances, so would disagree with you there.
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Honestly I'm kinda scared to imagine what kind of haxlords are considered "good" in terms of resistances and hax, if Goku and Caine completely "slacks" at them
 
Like, for me even some basic abilities that could land you a victory despite being much weaker than opponent is good enough to call the character "haxxed"
 
Wait, did we overlook Amulet or do y’all think it doesn’t matter that much? It gives Dipper and Mabel mobility advantage via flight, though don’t think it helps that much with TK or to disarm since Jax and Pomni have superior LS.
 
TheOrangeGuy09 said:
Wait, did we overlook Amulet or do y’all think it doesn’t matter that much? It gives Dipper and Mabel mobility advantage via flight, though don’t think it helps that much with TK or to disarm since Jax and Pomni have superior LS.
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IIRC you can't bypass telekinesis with LS alone. Since telekinesis can just launch and hold someone in the air and they won't have any way to move away from it, unless they have flight
 
AppleMaker said:
IIRC you can't bypass telekinesis with LS alone. Since telekinesis can just launch and hold someone in the air and they won't have any way to move away from it, unless they have flight
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Again, they should pretty much have all of Caine's powers if they put their mind into it, which includes telekinesis and flight.
 
ARandomDude127 said:
Woah woah WOAH idk about allat pal 💔

I feel like we’re giving Pomni and Jax a little too much credit here…
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Also I want to point out one more thing - if this potential is real, they should have gotten CRT alongside Caine, since he got quickly updated after that episode came out (unfortunately I haven't watched episode 8). Not to mention that it might be out of character for them
 
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